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RichardL Senior Member
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Posted: January 08 2010 at 13:31 | IP Logged
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Interesting point. If I press scene "A" the devices respond, and the slew of clean ups begin. I can see the Raw Log File rolling by on the screen. Now if I press scene "B", sometimes nothing will happen for a period - basically until the clean ups from "A" complete, or get to a break point of some kind. - maybe the abort you are mentioning. When things may start to resume, they will do so partially.
Essentially the traffic is causing delays, and what appear to be "timeouts" - that is the crux of my problem. Things have been better since I globally turned off Cleanups, but I don't really want to stay that way...
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grif091 Super User
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Posted: January 08 2010 at 15:35 | IP Logged
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Can you post a segment of the Raw Log containing trace entries before and during the timeouts. Normally the PLM is not known for tracing messages that are not directed toward it or issued from it.
__________________ Lee G
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: January 08 2010 at 15:59 | IP Logged
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Ok, Ive added sorting to the Controller and Responder windows on the Links tab. Double-clicking a column header will sort by that column ascending. Double-clicking the same column again will sort descending. Clicking the "Sort" text will sort using the built-in default sort.
Since you can now manually sort by the record number by double-clicking the appropriate column, Ive changed the default sort on the Responders tab to be Group, ID, Button.
Concerning the cleanups...Im going to add an option to the Insteon controller so a user has a choice of the current method of Insteon cleanups (send cleanups continuously until all cleanup messages have been sent) or a new behavior that matches what standard Insteon devices do...send group cleanups until another Insteon is sent or received and then abort the sequence.
Dave.
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RichardL Senior Member
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Posted: January 08 2010 at 16:27 | IP Logged
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No problem, I will match the setup and extract the log.
Dave - Great stuff on both items. That will be sweet. Let us know when that is available, I would be happy to test for you as well.
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RichardL Senior Member
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 11:50 | IP Logged
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Lee - I still have to get that extract, but before I do, I see something I was doing wrong. I have multiple KPL's controlling the same scene - thus I have (4) triggers, one for each KPL button, runnin ghte same code. I had the KPL buttons linked, so when I press one, the others will stay in sync. This is causing each button to trigger and run the code associated with the trigger. Obviously this is multiplying the traffic - and the perception that things are getting hung. I am working this thru, along with PLM Groups (your other great advice), and have made progress, but need to test this weekend.
In the meantime, I need to start a thread on PLM Groups, which is also fuzzy.
Updates to come...
Thanks.
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grif091 Super User
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 12:04 | IP Logged
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Normally turning On a KPL button so that it stays in sync with the responders controlled by that KPL button will not cause a trigger to fire that runs when the KPL button is pressed. Turning On a KPL button programmatically does not cause the scene controlled by that button to run. They are different types of Insteon message. If the trigger that runs from a KPL button press is running when the KPL button is turned on programmatically the trigger definition is in question.
__________________ Lee G
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RichardL Senior Member
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 12:21 | IP Logged
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For the benefit of other readers, I will start another thread "Multiple KPLs, Scenes, and Triggers" to continue this.
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