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That was it Kev, I wasn't holding long enough before dragging.... boy do I have a lot of buttons.
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sjvonstein wrote:
| That was it Kev, I wasn't holding long enough before dragging.... boy do I have a lot of buttons. |
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Good to hear. There is a bug where the button size is lost when you edit a button. I have resubmitted iHome 2.0.1 to fix this and a few other small things.
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Woah woah woah, formulas are gone and no x-10 devices. 
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Interesting. I guess that means X10 devises are stored in a different table. If I can find them shouldn't be to hard to add them to the list.
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I have a 100% Insteon setup so it hadn't even crossed my mind that there might be another table with X10 devises. I did find the X10 devices in the database though. The trick is going to be getting it all to work without having any X10 devices to test with. If you're up for it I can give you beta copy in a week or so to test.
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One of the unique things about X10 is that you do not need any actual X10 devices to test most of X10. Since X10 devices do not acknowledge commands simply define a series of X10 device addresses that do not exist. You can send commands to them without encountering errors as they do not acknowledge commands anyway. The Powerhome2 log will show the outbound commands. The one aspect that you cannot test is responding to an X10 command from a device since none exist to generate a command. Picking up an inexpensive X10 mini controller such that you can put X10 commands on the powerline which Powerhome2 will see should cover that aspect of X10 testing.
Edited by grif091 - April 02 2010 at 07:58
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grif091 wrote:
| One of the unique things about X10 is that you do not need any actual X10 devices to test most of X10. Since X10 devices do not acknowledge commands simply define a series of X10 device addresses that do not exist. You can send commands to them without encountering errors as they do not acknowledge commands anyway. The Powerhome2 log will show the outbound commands. The one aspect that you cannot test is responding to an X10 command from a device since none exist to generate a command. |
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Good to know. I will have to play with that some. Does PH maintain a status of the devises or is there no way to know the status of a device? For the Insteon devices I am just reading the status from the database. As long as PH is running it keeps the database status fields updated.
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The Device Status display shows whether an X10 device is On or Off for my dummy X10 addresses. I've not issued the PH query of the database for an X10 device but would assume it would work the same for X10 as Insteon.
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grif091 wrote:
| The Device Status display shows whether an X10 device is On or Off for my dummy X10 addresses. I've not issued the PH query of the database for an X10 device but would assume it would work the same for X10 as Insteon. |
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Thanks for the help. I will be playing with it and try to get X10 support back in iHome as soon as possible.
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Not that I don't like the improvement, but are formulas really gone? I can't find them, and that's kind of a major bummer. I take it that, without formulas, there's no way to run the macroparm command to call complex macros?
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judetf wrote:
| Not that I don't like the improvement, but are formulas really gone? I can't find them, and that's kind of a major bummer. I take it that, without formulas, there's no way to run the macroparm command to call complex macros? |
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It didn't make it into this version because I am still working on how it should work conceptually. I am thinking there is 2 more button types needed. One that is just a single formula. One that is 3 formulas (on, off and status). My thought is that the status formula should return a number 0-255 (0 off 255 on) and that would decide which formula to run.
You bring up a good point with passing parameters to macros.
Im still working out how all of this is presented to the user. It's a pretty complicated view.
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Sorry it's complicated, and we of course appreciate the effort. As I'm sure you're aware, however, it's always frustrating to lose features upon which you heavily relied when going to new version...
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Suggestion: I'm finding it confusing to have macros, devices, and groups listed by description, as I'm far more used to just thinking about and sorting through the names themselves. Particularly since they are ordered in PH alphabetically by name, when I now go to Macros in iHome 2.0, it's that much harder to find things because they are now sorted by description.
Would it be possible to give a 'settings' option that allowed the user to pick whether it's the name or the description that appears on those pages?
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Am I missing something obvious that deletes buttons?
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judetf wrote:
| Sorry it's complicated, and we of course appreciate the effort. As I'm sure you're aware, however, it's always frustrating to lose features upon which you heavily relied when going to new version... |
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I only say that its complicated to give an idea of how long it may take. iHome is just my hobby. There are weeks that its all I can think about and there are weeks that I dont get a chance to look at it.
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Suggestion: I'm finding it confusing to have macros, devices, and groups listed by description, as I'm far more used to just thinking about and sorting through the names themselves. Particularly since they are ordered in PH alphabetically by name, when I now go to Macros in iHome 2.0, it's that much harder to find things because they are now sorted by description.
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I am going to have to add more settings for the X10 devices. That said adding sort by and display options wouldn't be very hard at all.
iHome 1 was my first iPhone and for that matter first Objective C project. That being said there were a lot of things that I did the wrong way. iHome 2.0 was a complete rewrite. The good thing is that it runs much faster now. The bad is that not every feature in iHome 1.x made it into iHome 2.0. I will be working on adding those few missing features back in though.
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sjvonstein wrote:
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and one of those features will be a way to delete a button. LOL. Not sure how I missed that.
I will try to get this one submitted later today. Apple is reviewing apps very quickly right now so it wont be that long.
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I'm now convinced you don't sleep
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Today is iPad day... there is no way I slept last night.
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Also, pressing "Test in Safari" does nothing.
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sjvonstein wrote:
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Fixed that and added error messages if you the connection fails in the
2.0.1 update that went live this morning.
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No delete?
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2.0.1 was uploaded before I knew about the missing delete button. I just submitted 2.0.2 to the app store with the delete button button. I will let you guys know when its up.
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Kev:
Sliding from full bright to off hasn't worked yet. I have to stop at some point in between full bright and off before finally sliding it to off before it will actually turn off. Steps detailed below:
1) Slide from full bright to off
2) Nothing happens
3) Slide back to 50% or so
4) Light dims to 50%
5) Slide to off position
6) Light turns off
Also, connection seems to break if iPhone sleeps while app is open.
Sorry to bring all these problems to you! You've made an excellent app! Don't let my focus on improvements indicate otherwise.
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