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Posted: May 01 2012 at 19:16 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
PLM Rev 3.3, early-model Access Points.

And when I plug the Synchrolinc into the same Ext. Cord as the PLM, the behavior doesn't change.

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2012-05-01 20:15:03.448     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F8 C4 1F 2E 00         &nbs p;    
2012-05-01 20:15:03.557     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEONEXT=11 CC FF 18 F8 C4 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06
2012-05-01 20:15:04.151     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 23 2E 00
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:49 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
I'm using this call, as per Dave.

ph_insteonwithretext("CLOTHESWASHDETECT",46,0,"")
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 14:37 | IP Logged Quote grif091
Go to Help | About | Controllers. What is the PLM firmware?

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Posted: May 04 2012 at 14:45 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
ID: PLMMODEM. Insteon PLM Controller
Device Type 0305
Port: COM12
Firmware: 92
ID: 11.CC.FF
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 15:07 | IP Logged Quote grif091
Using a USB to Serial converter?

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Posted: May 04 2012 at 15:09 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
Nope -those are flakey. Added a PCI card to my "new" (7 months ago) PC that has a serial port and a parallel port. Rock solid.
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 15:22 | IP Logged Quote grif091
Have you tried a different command that should return an Extended response such as this read link record

ph_insteonwithretext("SYNCHROLINC",47,0,"00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00")

The original Access Points might have a problem coupling extended commands (same with the RF SignaLincs) as the effort was to switch RF frequencies. However, that would not be factor with the SynchroLinc and PLM plugged into the same outlet.


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Posted: May 04 2012 at 15:39 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
That command worked! Thanks Lee


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Posted: May 18 2012 at 21:22 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
Guys - sorry to say that either I got un-reproducable results, or this never worked right.   Here's the situation: I bought a 2nd synchrolinc for the dryer (so I could code things so that the "attention" signal goes off only if
a) washer done AND dryer not running, OR
b) Dryer done.
Also let's me get smarter about nagging a few times, etc. (Wife is eating this up).

So with both Synchrolincs - I believe that I am programming them from PH using the "46" command Dave gave me (at least, I can see the behavior alter after I send a change).

Here's the problem - for both (Rev 1.15 = latest) modules, I'm having trouble reading back. The command Lee gave me produces a RECEIVEINSTEONEXT response, but I can't see in the response any of the values that I programmed. For example; I programmed...

ph_insteonwithretext("CLOTHESWASHDETECT",46,0,"00 02 00 4B FF 0A")

But when I send

ph_insteonwithretext("CLOTHESWASHDETECT",47,0,"00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00")

I get

2012-05-18 22:19:17.883     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F8 C4 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
2012-05-18 22:19:17.993     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEONEXT=11 CC FF 18 F8 C4 1F 2F 00 00 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06
2012-05-18 22:19:18.586     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 23 2F 00
2012-05-18 22:19:20.586     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONEXT=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 13 2F 00 01 01 00 FF 01 E2 01 11 CC FF 00 00 01 00

I don't know which bytes in the extended response are supposed to be the 00 4B FF 0A that I programmed, so I can even see if there's a pattern to the error across modules.

Any/all help appreciated. - thanks! 8-}

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Posted: May 18 2012 at 21:38 | IP Logged Quote grif091
The 46 and 47 commands are unrelated. The 47 command reads a record from the link database. It was an exercise to see if some other extended command would return an extended response which it does.

This link record

E2 01 11 CC FF 00 00 01

is returned in the extended response to the 47 command.

Sorry for the confusion. Drop the use of the 47 command as far as analyzing the SynchroLinc lack of extended response to a 46 00 00 00 00 00. The 46 update request that is the first example does not return an extended response. You would need to issue the 46 with all zeros which is a read request to get an extended response which before was not coming back. The 47 example simply verifies that PH will trace an extended response if the SynchroLinc issues one.

Again, sorry I was not clear what the 47 response actually meant.

Edited by grif091 - May 18 2012 at 21:40

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Posted: May 19 2012 at 08:27 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
Ok then - I guess when I saw it work the first time (at all) I didn't check the data - my bad.

But we're back to square one. Dave will never be able to support Synchronlinc without being able to read it. Any other ideas? I'm happy to be experimenter.

Thanks!
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Posted: May 19 2012 at 09:06 | IP Logged Quote grif091
I think PH will be able to support the SynchroLinc in general as it works here. The question is why does it not work on your system. I had been thinking something about your system, devices, configuration, something, that was not allowing/supporting extended responses.

That idea was dismissed when the 2F command extended response was received and traced.

I just ran another 2E against my SynchroLinc and got the expected extended response

2012-05-19 09:44:22.664     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F7 B1 1F 2E 00         &nbs p;    
2012-05-19 09:44:23.305     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEONEXT=0F 44 DC 18 F7 B1 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06
2012-05-19 09:44:23.305     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F7 B1 0F 44 DC 2B 2E 00
2012-05-19 09:44:23.821     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONEXT=18 F7 B1 0F 44 DC 1B 2E 00 00 01 00 19 17 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

At this point I have no idea why your Synchrolinc(s) do not produce an extended response to the 2E command.

Do you know the firmware level of the SynchroLinc? Mine is v.30.


Edited by grif091 - May 19 2012 at 09:07

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Posted: May 19 2012 at 09:08 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
Hi Lee - Mine is 1.15 which they say is the latest. Exactly what is the powerhome command you're using to get that response?

FWIW - when I do this testing, I plug the Syncholinc into the same ext. cord as the PLM.

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Posted: May 19 2012 at 09:25 | IP Logged Quote grif091
My test bed has the SynchroLinc on the same power distribution bar as the PLM.

Cmd1=16, cmd2=0 returns the device cat/subcat and firmware level.

2012-05-19 10:18:54.039     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F7 B1 05 10 00
2012-05-19 10:18:54.336     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0F 44 DC 18 F7 B1 05 10 00 06
2012-05-19 10:18:54.446     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F7 B1 0F 44 DC 21 10 00
2012-05-19 10:18:54.633     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F7 B1 07 09 30 8B 01 00 - the 30 is the firmware level
2012-05-19 10:18:54.711     RX  &nbs p;  ENROLLMENTBROADCAST=01 00 18 F7 B1 07 09 30 - the 30 is the firmware level
2012-05-19 10:18:55.321     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONEXT=18 F7 B1 0F 44 DC 1B 88 00 03 61 BC A0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


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Posted: May 19 2012 at 09:28 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00
Hi Lee - I don't mean to be difficult, but what I was looking for is exactly what you typed into the "formula field" in powerhome explorer (MACROS). I -assume- it looks something like

ph_insteonwithretext("<module name>",<stuff>)

But I don't want to -assume- anything - the problem is something silly.    Let me know your formula to return the firmware level and to read the module and I will try to replicate here.

Thanks!
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Posted: May 19 2012 at 09:59 | IP Logged Quote grif091
ph_insteonwithret("SYNCHROLINC",16, 0)


ph_insteonwithretext("SYNCHROLINC", 46, 0, "")

I normally put some zeros on my extended commands. Switched to the example you posted earlier so I would be executing the same command you are. This is what I would normally code.

ph_insteonwithretext("SYNCHROLINC", 46, 0, "00 00 00 00")

It made no difference on my system. I get an extended response with either “” or “00 00 00 00”


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ph_insteonwithret("SYNCHROLINC",16, 0)

produced

2012-05-19 11:03:07.781     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F8 C4 05 10 00
2012-05-19 11:03:07.828     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=11 CC FF 18 F8 C4 05 10 00 06
2012-05-19 11:03:08.000     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 21 10 00
2012-05-19 11:03:08.250     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 07 09 30 83 01 00
2012-05-19 11:03:08.281     RX  &nbs p;  ENROLLMENTBROADCAST=01 00 18 F8 C4 07 09 30
2012-05-19 11:03:08.296     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 07 09 30 83 01 00
2012-05-19 11:03:08.312     RX  &nbs p;  ENROLLMENTBROADCAST=01 00 18 F8 C4 07 09 30
2012-05-19 11:03:12.796     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F8 C4 05 10 00
2012-05-19 11:03:12.843     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=11 CC FF 18 F8 C4 05 10 00 06
2012-05-19 11:03:13.078     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 21 10 00
2012-05-19 11:03:13.171     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 07 09 30 8B 01 00
2012-05-19 11:03:13.187     RX  &nbs p;  ENROLLMENTBROADCAST=01 00 18 F8 C4 07 09 30
2012-05-19 11:03:13.203     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 07 09 30 8B 01 00
2012-05-19 11:03:13.234     RX  &nbs p;  ENROLLMENTBROADCAST=01 00 18 F8 C4 07 09 30
2012-05-19 11:03:17.812     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F8 C4 05 10 00
2012-05-19 11:03:17.843     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=11 CC FF 18 F8 C4 05 10 00 06
2012-05-19 11:03:18.031     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 21 10 00
2012-05-19 11:03:18.171     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 07 09 30 8B 01 00
2012-05-19 11:03:18.203     RX  &nbs p;  ENROLLMENTBROADCAST=01 00 18 F8 C4 07 09 30
2012-05-19 11:03:18.218     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 07 09 30 8B 01 00
2012-05-19 11:03:18.250     RX  &nbs p;  ENROLLMENTBROADCAST=01 00 18 F8 C4 07 09 30
2012-05-19 11:03:23.609     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONEXT=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 1B 88 00 00 00 05 B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00



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Posted: May 19 2012 at 10:08 | IP Logged Quote jeffw_00

ph_insteonwithretext("SYNCHROLINC", 46, 0, "")
produced

2012-05-19 11:06:33.062     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 18 F8 C4 1F 2E 00         &nbs p;    
2012-05-19 11:06:33.156     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEONEXT=11 CC FF 18 F8 C4 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 06
2012-05-19 11:06:33.656     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 27 2E 00
2012-05-19 11:06:34.406     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONEXT=18 F8 C4 11 CC FF 13 2E 00 00 01 00 4B FF 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


So that's the magic command! (00 4B FF 0A is what i programmed)

Thanks Lee - BTW - where does one learn about these

ph_insteonwithretext("SYNCHROLINC", XX, 0, "")

commands?
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Posted: May 19 2012 at 10:08 | IP Logged Quote grif091
You have to issue

ph_insteonwithretext("SYNCHROLINC", 46, 0, "")


to get back the configuration information in the extended response. Since you do not get the extended response you will not see those values.

Your SynchroLinc has firmware v.30 so we are running the same firmware in the SynchroLinc


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Posted: May 19 2012 at 10:10 | IP Logged Quote grif091
Interesting that you are now getting the extended response and were not getting it before.

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