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dhoward
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Jeff,
Totally sucks. Im pretty sure your PLM is hosed though
since I cant find any problems with your database. I
contacted SmartHome to find out about the RF PLM dongle
and was told it was not discontinued. Im still waiting
to hear back more info though.
Concerning the PLM links...the PLM can send commands
without the link database but will have problems
receiving transmissions that originate from remote
devices. For example, if you turn a light on manually
that is not one of the 3 devices that the links work on,
then the PLM *shouldnt* see that incoming Insteon
command. If it does, then its likely that the links
arent deleted/missing (which may be the problem with
loading them in the first place. If the memory is hosed
where the links cant be erased, then I don't think you
can add duplicate links).
You may be able to tell if the links are truly erased by
monitoring the Insteon log when the controller is
connected. I would open the Insteon Explorer and set
logging on. Then disconnect controllers (click the
lighting bolt on the toolbar). Wait about 10 seconds to
make sure every controller has cleanly disconnected.
Then press the icon again to reconnect. When PowerHome
first connects to the PLM, it polls the unit for its link
database and you should see that in the log. This should
tell you what is in its memory. If this doesnt change
with a factory reset, then for some reason the EEPROM in
the device cannot be erased.
Dave.
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Thanks Dave. I have been able to reload all the links after trying several times. I don't know why it only loads three links most of the time (or why those three links), but after numerous repeats, I am able to get the PLM to load. I still cannot get your script to turn on the Raw Log to record the reinit, but basically during a reinit, the communications seems to show a lot of links between the PLM and the other devises. The log basically shows the following (abbreviated):
GETINFO=XX (addresses)
SETCONFIG=XX
GETFIRSTLINK=6
ALLLINKRECORD=XX
GETNEXTLINK=6
ALLLINKRECORD=XX
this repeats for a lot of links and then ends with
GETNEXTLINK=15
If I recall, Lee mentioned that the last message indicates that there are no links stored! This seems odd after it apparently shows all the links in the EEPROM. What do you make of that?
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Sorry my previous post was misunderstood. In the previous post analysis the 15 was received on the Get-First attempt to read a link record. The 15 means there are no link records available to read. Since it was returned on the Get-First read it means there are no link records in the database.
In the last post many links were returned before a Get-Next returned a 15. The 15 means there are no MORE link records available, not that there are NO link records.
The normal PLM response to just about all serial commands is 06 meaning the command is known and accepted. A 15 is the general cannot do the command response. Could mean the PLM is busy with the previous command, the command is not known, or in the case of reading link records no (more) link records to read. Not that the link database is empty. The 15 has to be evaluated in the context in which the PLM returned the 15.
Regarding the RF USB PLM, the last time I looked the sales page said it was DISCONTINUED.
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Handman
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OK, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying, Lee. Seems like I got a good load of all the devise links in that case. Since I am still limping by, I am not ready to buy a replacement yet. I'll see what comes of the RF USB stick, but won't hold my breath.
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