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adoute Newbie
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 09:11 | IP Logged
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Dave - Thanks again for the idea (and files) to try the newer SDM. "PowerHome Uptime: 2 days 0 hours 15 minutes 32 seconds" and the all my timers are still running fine. I'm assuming that I'll have to re-start PowerHome when I register it - is this correct? If so, I think I'll hold off for a few days to see if the SDM can make it at least 5 days without issue. Whatever happens, I will DEFINITELY be purchasing it before the trial period expires.
Thanks again -
Allan
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 11:29 | IP Logged
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Allan,
Thats great that you got past the 24 hour mark. I was hoping that no news was good news.
Once you register, you don't have to restart. But if it expires before you register it automatically wipes out your database and performs a factory reset on all your devices (just kidding ).
Let me know how long it goes and whether you have any problems or not.
Dave.
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adoute Newbie
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Posted: March 02 2006 at 12:38 | IP Logged
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Using SDM 163 & a USB PowerLinc, my PowerHome (1.03.4.6) uptime is now at 5 days 3 hours 42 minutes 16 seconds and counting. I read the post in another topic regarding turning off the background scanning & such, and will do that when I get home this evening. Hopefully (fingers crossed) I've got a stable configuration.
Thanks for all the help.
Allan
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adoute Newbie
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Posted: March 02 2006 at 18:25 | IP Logged
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I guess I spoke too soon... SMD3.exe crashed after 5 days 7 hours. I've kept the crash report if anyone is interested. PowerHome had the following in its log:
A critical error occurred at 2006-03-02 16:18:15.325. PowerHome Version: 1.03.4.6 Error Number: 35 Error Message: Error calling external object function sendtext at line 17 in function f_insteonsend of object uo_controller_insteon_dm. Window: uo_controller_insteon_dm Object: uo_controller_insteon_dm Event: f_insteonsend Line: 17
Still - 5 days is a LOT better than 12 hours. Heck - for some versions of Windows 5 days is a long time... (By the same token, my main MythTV box has been up 35 days, 19:56 hours, and my Debian firewall/router/web content filter/toy has been up 135 days, 3:46 hours. Both would be longer if I had better UPS's - both of them were rebooted strictly due to power losses...)
Allan
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 14:24 | IP Logged
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Well that certainly is a lot better (though not nearly as good as I had hoped). Ive had uptimes on PowerHome for 6 months (on Windows 98 no less).
They now have a version 166 out. I havent had a chance to play with it though. Based upon your testing, I think I'll go ahead and release the next version with 163 since it's definately more stable than the previous version and then make the 166 available for testing to see if it's any better.
Dave.
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adoute Newbie
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Posted: March 03 2006 at 14:39 | IP Logged
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If you'd like me to test 166, I'd be happy to. And I'm sure I'll be installing the next beta as soon as it's available. Also, I'll be registering either this evening or tomorrow morning (I'd do it right now, but I won't have access to my registration number until I get home). I know that I haven't even come close to using all the features PowerHome offers - I look forward to playing with the advanced functions. I'm a web/db designer/admin/programmer by trade, and am thrilled with the possibilities your software offers.
Thanks again for all you effort and help -
Allan
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Dean Senior Member
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Posted: March 13 2006 at 21:25 | IP Logged
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Dave,
When we do an Insteon auto discovery, do we need to download the core code to the PLC each time, or is one time sufficient? Not sure if the code stays in the controller or if the download code goes away when you exit DM Control. Reason I asked is that I was trying to auto discover the ControLinc, started the download of the core application, and that was all she wrote. PowerHome just sat there for 15 minutes, had to kill PowerHome to get out. I then unplugged my PLC in case it was locked up.
Also, do the Copy and Paste right-mouse-click commands do anything? When I am editing a Macro, for example, I try to copy and paste a row but it doesn't seem to do anything. I am running the latest beta, 1.03.4.7. A duplicate row command (right click a row and click duplicate) might be nice.
Thanks,
-Dean
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:42 | IP Logged
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Dean,
No...you should only have to download the core code one time (unless another downloads a different core or if the core corrupts itself). Im not sure about now, but current shipping units were not being loaded with a different core.
Not sure why PowerHome would lock-up on the "Auto Discovery". It does freeze all other processes except the "Turn Discover Mode Off" button (this is the same button you used to turn it on...it toggles).
However, see this link for issues regarding ControLinc auto discovery http://power-home.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=631.
The copy and paste commands work...they just copy and paste the currently highlighted field (same as Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V). They are only on the menu because a disabled person had a special need and could not use the keyboard effectively. There isnt currently a duplicate row function. There is a "Duplicate" command on the menu, but it is at the Macro Header level and copies the entire macro including all of it's lines.
Dave.
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krommetje Super User
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 14:02 | IP Logged
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dhoward wrote:
Hope everything goes well for you, your wife, and your new child. |
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Everything is quieting down at the moment. Our oldest daughter is really into it having a sister...
dhoward wrote:
Ive received your file and am in the process of working it. Got sidetracked on some other issues but will be sending it back to you shortly. |
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Is there anything I should account for when upgrading?
Oh by the way: there is a macro in the DB called Test. This macro can be renamed to something called
- tempimport - or somthing like that. This is our code which reads the file TEMPlcd.txt and imports the values into PH as a GV.
Peter
Edited by krommetje - March 28 2006 at 14:03
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spike5494 Newbie
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 06:24 | IP Logged
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Hi Dave,
I just registered my powerhome and am running 1.03.4.7 Patch 4 with SDM 1.63. I have 60 or so Insteon devices and I too am having stability problems with the SDM. My timer events will fail after 12-24 hours. I can save the logs and send them to you the next time this happens, but in the meantime would it be possible for you to email me 1.66 for testing.
Thanks, Mike.
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mustangcoupe Super User
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:25 | IP Logged
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Dito with the sdm instability... I send commands that never work. but if I reboot PH(and sdm) then all is ok..
__________________ Todd Hannemann
HA newbie
PowerHome - UPB - ELK
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 17:50 | IP Logged
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Peter,
Just wanted to let you know that I havent forgotten about you and will work on finishing your DB conversion shortly. Glad to hear that you're enjoying the new addition to your family. I think this is the quietest you've been .
Mike,
There is an even newer version of the SDM out now. It's up to version 191. I havent had a chance to even test it yet, but I'll download it and make it available shortly for the brave.
Todd,
Your problem seems to be one of two that eventually happens with the SDM. Either it crashes and you get the SDM "Restart" screen or it just eventually stops responding. I'll get to work on the 191 version and we'll see if it helps any.
Stay tuned,
Dave.
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mustangcoupe Super User
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Actually I am getting both of the problems... Is there anyway to tell if it is not responding so I can "Kill" and restart it automatically... PH/INSTEON is unusable right now.. it dosent even last a few hours...
__________________ Todd Hannemann
HA newbie
PowerHome - UPB - ELK
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: April 05 2006 at 23:03 | IP Logged
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For all those having SDM problems, you can try the latest SDM here: http://www.power-home.com/download/sdm191.zip.
Either rename or delete the SmartHome directory beneath the PowerHome directory and unzip the above file so that it is below the PowerHome directory.
Let me know if this helps or not.
Todd,
Once all of your links are discovered, you can turn off the Background status check, background local level check, and background database scanning. This will greatly increase your SDM uptime.
Dave.
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spike5494 Newbie
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Posted: April 08 2006 at 14:00 | IP Logged
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Dave,
Updated yesterday to SDM 1.91. I'll let you know if there is any improvement in uptime. I've kept background updating on since I'd like to keep that if possible. Also, is there any reason to reload the timer app on the controller?
Thanks, Michael.
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: April 09 2006 at 20:24 | IP Logged
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Michael,
Nope, no need to reload the timerapp unless it becomes corrupted (it sometimes happens) or some other application has changed it.
Keep me posted. They're up to version 202 now and I'll be posting it shortly as well.
Dave.
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spike5494 Newbie
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Posted: April 09 2006 at 21:11 | IP Logged
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Dave,
Looks like the SDM crapped out again (v1.91) after around 24 hours. I'm going to turn off background checking in the meantime to see if that buys me some time. Let me know as soon as 2.02 is there for download and I can give that a try. Also, one thing to note is that the controller I'm using is the 2814UB model (the one without the passthrough outlet). I don't believe there is any technical difference between that one and the passthrough model, but thought it was worth noting.
Thanks, Michael.
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krommetje Super User
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 07:09 | IP Logged
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dhoward wrote:
Peter,
Just wanted to let you know that I havent forgotten about you and will work on finishing your DB conversion shortly. Glad to hear that you're enjoying the new addition to your family. I think this is the quietest you've been .
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yes you're right... I've had a busy time but now things are getting back to normal. my old version still runs smoothly for about 90 days now. I added a touchscreen to the server's LCD monitor so that I don't have to use the touchpad on the keyboard. I would love to have a Touchlinc or a Leopard but these are hard to get hold of over here. I am brewing on a new way to have PH control my central heating.
Peter
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 15:43 | IP Logged
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Peter,
I will definately get to work on your DB. Ive got a couple now to work on that Ive been saving.
Michael,
The 202 version is now available. Get it here: http://www.power-home.com/download/sdm202.zip.
Turning off background status check and background local level scan will definately buy you some time.
Dave.
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spike5494 Newbie
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 22:28 | IP Logged
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Dave,
Just installed 2.02 with back status and local level on (just for testing). I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks,
Michael.
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