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Does PH have support for the 2411T IRLinc? I want to buy it so I can control all my home theater crap. Is there a better solution? I saw some people using a USBLinc (or something like that?).
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Craig
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The USB-UIRT works very nicely. Probably what you should look into.
http://www.usbuirt.com/
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BeachBum wrote:
The USB-UIRT works very nicely. Probably what you should look into.
http://www.usbuirt.com/
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Ok, thats what I meant by USBLinc .... I was way off. The only problem I see with suing this is that my server is nowhere near my Home theater. How far does USB go? but really my home theater is in a space that is very difficult to run wiring to. Thats why I thought that the 2411T would be neat cuz I woudnt have to run cable all over the house.
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I have the same scenario and use X10 Powermids to get the IR from my server to the controlled devices.
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I also use the USB-UIRT but that's because the 2411T
IRLinc wasn't yet available. The USB-UIRT works well
with PH but you do need to run a wire from the UIRT to
your equipment or use some sort of IR network or the
Powermids (which didn't work well for me).
Altho I don't have a 2411T I looked at the manual -
which is pretty brief. It seems to indicate that it can
store up to 128 IR commands. Altho I couldn't find
further information, I assume each command is accessed
as a group command 1-128. If my assumption is correct
PH can be easily used to send the group on or off
commands to the 2411T.
If you do try this, let us know how it works for you.
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For hard wire options I use a IR over COAX solution in combination with USB-UIRT to go long distances along with the X10 Pyramid which generates a lot of noise.
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As long as dave is willing to help out I have no problem being a test dummy. I have 3 things that need IR control tho and after lookingat it im not sure it has the versatility for that ......
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You don’t have to be worried about being the dummy. I’m already one.  My 2411T shipped today....
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BeachBum wrote:
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Nice! Def let me know how it goes. I will order one right behind you if it works well.
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Here’s what I’ve learned so far. You have to link it to a controller for it to transmit the codes it learned. I don’t know of any way to customize the codes after the IRLinc receives them and if you want to change a sequence I haven’t figured that out either. I have not been able to link it using PH. I have not been able to get the RemoteLinc to work with it yet. I thought about using a virtual controller but that won’t send and actual Insteon Group command. It will respond only to On and Off from a controller. For some this may have some use but for now all I have found it good for is as a black heavy paperweight. Maybe Dave can shed some light on it to see if there is any future in it.
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BeachBum wrote:
| Here’s what I’ve learned so far. You have to link it to a controller for it to transmit the codes it learned. I don’t know of any way to customize the codes after the IRLinc receives them and if you want to change a sequence I haven’t figured that out either. I have not been able to link it using PH. I have not been able to get the RemoteLinc to work with it yet. I thought about using a virtual controller but that won’t send and actual Insteon Group command. It will respond only to On and Off from a controller. For some this may have some use but for now all I have found it good for is as a black heavy paperweight. Maybe Dave can shed some light on it to see if there is any future in it. |
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That stinks. When I started reading the user manual thats what I became afraid of. It seemed that all it did was send out a series of IR blasts based on an On or Off command. I hope Dave can help you out because it has some potential I think, if we can "crack the code" so to speak.....
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I'm looking at Insteon/PH/IR integration for the first time and found this thread, which is great. I also just saw the EZUIRT device on smarthome.com
A quick search here on the PH forums found no mention of this device. Can anyone comment on that versus the usbuirt device versus the IRlinc devices?
I'm sure there are significant differences, but from what I can tell the ezuirt device will interface between my A/V remote controls and Insteon which can presumably then be picked up by PH which will then let me do pretty much anything I want.
But I'd love some quick insight if anyone has any knowledge or advice.
Thanks
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As you read earlier I use the USB-UIRT and after comparing it to the IRLinc transmitter I found the IRLinc to lack functionality. I don’t have any experience with the EZUIRT but I assume that too would lack the functionality one gets using the USB-UIRT. I control my Amps, SATs and TVs with no problems and program them in any sequence without having to relearn the sequence.
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A consideration when choosing an EZUIRT or IRLinc for Insteon control is the IR protocol being used. The IRLinc specs list the NEC protocol. The EZUIRT specs list X10, NEC, Sony and RC5. A few folks have tried using the EZUIRT with Scientific Atlanta DVRs which use IRDA protocol (a belief rather than an absolute know) which is not in the list of supported IR protocols and does not work according to those who have tried. I would be sure the IR protocols you plan to use for Insteon control are in the supported list.
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@ BeachBum: Did Dave ever get a hold of you to see if he was able to do any more with this device? I really have no Computer anywhere near my home theater and I want control through Insteon if I can get it....
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No, Dave did not offer anything on the IRLink transmitter. I have since sent it back. My computer is on a different floor than my AV wiring closet and I don’t have any hard wire to that area other than some phone and COAX. Since most IR systems require more than 2 wires that basically eliminated the other pair of my phone line. Wireless to that area is questionable at best as I have been using Powermids and they are subject to and generate a lot of noise. So I chose IR over Coax. It works so well I now have it going to 2 different areas of the house. What I don’t have is 2 way communication yet but that is easily achieved I just don’t have a need for it. To answer your question about controlling all this with Insteon, well I don’t directly in that all commands were learned using PH. The only commands that Insteon gets involved is the firing of triggers that will ultimately result in an IR sequence going to the wiring closet to turn Amps, SAT receivers and TVs on or off and to change volume or channels. My short experience with the IRLinc resulted in a very cumbersome way to achieve the same results not to mention the cost.
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Pete/Dave -
In the time since these old posts were created, has anything more been discovered about successfully using the 2411T IR Transmitter?
I am trying to control a small window air conditioner in my Wine Room (in a separate building from the house with no interconnection capabilities other than wireless LAN or power line, but it is only 20' away from several dual-band Insteon devices in the house).
My only hope for control (to simply turn the AC On or Off) is via something like the 2411T.
BUT I have been totally unable to get it to work. I can teach it the one IR code needed and tapping its SET button results in the IR Sender blinking, but when I link the 2411T to a light switch (as a test setup) I can never get the 2411 to blink the IR Sender when the Switch or a PH Insteon ON is sent.
Doing a "Scan DB" in the PH Insteon Explorer Devices Tab and then examining the resulting 2411T Link structure in the "Links" tab shows the Controllers of the 2411 to be the Light switch and the PH PLM (as expected)and the Links window shows all Controller/Responder links to be "verified" and thus seemingly functional, but sending an ON or FASTON from either of those sources results in no IR Sender response.
How in the bloody heck does one get this 2411T to respond to anything?
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Ken,
I havent worked with the Insteon IR devices for years so probably cant provide much info. I did look through all of the SmartHome developers notes and they don't even have
this device listed.
If I remember correctly, the setup was a two step process. The actual learning of the IR codes (which had to be done manually) and then the linking to the device to send the
IR codes (which could be done through PowerHome).
Im not sure if I quite understand your setup though. Is the Window AC IR controlled and you're locating the IR sender next to the AC unit or is the IR sender at the main
dwelling and you're trying to beam the IR the 20 feet to the AC unit? If the first case, the IR Sender is not dual band so the Insteon signal may not be reaching it. However,
you do say you can scan the device links so maybe COMMs isnt an issue. If the second case and you're trying to beam the IR across the 20 foot span, I don't think this will
work...especially in daylight and daylight interferes with IR signals.
If you cant get the IR Sender to work, you may have better luck with a Global Cache IR Tach. It's a small IR unit that supports WIFI and is able to be controlled by PowerHome.
Sorry to not be of much help  .
Dave.
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Ken, I have found the Irnhelper to be a great tool for
debugging IR problems. Can be found on the USBUIRT web
site. I run ir over coax and cat5 both work fine for
long distance but that is hard wire.I had a 2411T once
and sent it back as I could never get the thing to work
for me.
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Ken, I've had some luck with these:
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000069EV0/ezvi
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