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Posted: January 20 2009 at 13:25 | IP Logged Quote Viper

I'm not sure if this is a bug or there is something I can do to code around this problem.

I have an IRLinc that I have linked to my PLM for 12 different scenes and lights. I didn't link the lights directly to the IRLinc as I have other controllers/switches which also control the lights and I didn't want to have to press a button twice on the remote to get a light to respond as I want. I also have a Movie Scene supported by PH that records the current level/state of several lights, then changes them to the "Movie level/state". When Movie is pressed again, the previous levels/states are restored.

Now for the problem, when I press and hold a remote button and then release it, I see a Start Man Chg followed by a Stop Man Chg. Then a request from the PLM to the PLM for a Status Req. Presumably, the Status Req is to find out the new current level/state. The problem is that the PLM does not respond. After pressing and holding a remote button five times, the PLM is marked as not responding and the errors have to be cleared.

I know I could put in a wait and clear the comm errors at the end of my macros, but there is still the performance lag that occurs from the three timeouts that happen.

(Sorry, couldn't get the image upload to work with IE8RC1)

Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D9.F8] To Address:[0D.D9.F8] Flags:[7] Cmd1:[25] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Direct. From: POWERLINC MODEM To: POWERLINC MODEM, Status Req
Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D9.F8] To Address:[0D.D9.F8] Flags:[7] Cmd1:[25] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Direct. From: POWERLINC MODEM To: POWERLINC MODEM, Status Req
Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D9.F8] To Address:[0D.D9.F8] Flags:[7] Cmd1:[25] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Direct. From: POWERLINC MODEM To: POWERLINC MODEM, Status Req
Insteon DM Controller PLM transmission of Address:[00.00.0E] Flags:[207] Cmd1:[24] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Group Broadcast. Group: 14, Stop Man Chg
Trigger check of END TABLES MAN STOP performed.
Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D3.BC] To Address:[00.00.08] Flags:[199] Cmd1:[24] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Group Broadcast. From: SCENE CONTROLLER Group: 8, Stop Man Chg
Insteon DM Controller PLM transmission of Address:[00.00.0E] Flags:[207] Cmd1:[23] Cmd2:[1]. Decode: Group Broadcast. Group: 14, Start Man Chg
Trigger check of END TABLES MAN START performed.
Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D3.BC] To Address:[00.00.08] Flags:[203] Cmd1:[23] Cmd2:[1]. Decode: Group Broadcast. From: SCENE CONTROLLER Group: 8, Start Man Chg

Thanks! Tom
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 13:48 | IP Logged Quote BeachBum

Are you on V2.1b? If not that might fix your problem.

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Posted: January 20 2009 at 13:56 | IP Logged Quote Viper

Pete,

Sorry, I didn't send complete information. Yes, I'm on V2.1b. I had another problem where my formulas were too long/complicated in V2.1a that V2.1b fixed. So I am on V2.1b and just verified the problem is occurring.

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Insteon architecture does not allow a command to be sent from the same device it is directed to. That is, the From Address: and the To Address: cannot be the same. I don't what definition is wrong but the commands with the same from and to address will not work.

Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D9.F8] To Address:[0D.D9.F8] Flags:[7] Cmd1:[25] Cmd2:[0].

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Posted: January 20 2009 at 16:23 | IP Logged Quote Viper

Lee,

Here is the raw log:

2009-01-20 15:17:38.609     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=0D D3 BC 00 00 08 CB 17 00
2009-01-20 15:17:38.796     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 00 00 0E CF 17 00
2009-01-20 15:17:38.828     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 00 00 0E CF 17 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:39.625     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=0D D3 BC 00 00 08 CB 18 00
2009-01-20 15:17:39.765     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 0D D3 BC 0F 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:39.781     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 0D D3 BC 0F 19 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:40.156     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=0D D3 BC 0D D9 F8 27 19 29
2009-01-20 15:17:40.265     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 00 00 0E CF 18 00
2009-01-20 15:17:40.281     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 00 00 0E CF 18 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:40.906     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 0D D9 F8 0F 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:40.937     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 0D D9 F8 0F 19 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:41.093     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=0D D9 F8 0D D9 F8 07 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:44.937     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON TIMEOUT=
2009-01-20 15:17:45.906     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 0D D9 F8 0F 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:45.921     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 0D D9 F8 0F 19 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:46.078     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=0D D9 F8 0D D9 F8 07 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:49.921     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON TIMEOUT=
2009-01-20 15:17:50.906     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 0D D9 F8 0F 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:50.921     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 0D D9 F8 0F 19 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:51.078     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=0D D9 F8 0D D9 F8 07 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:54.921     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON TIMEOUT=
2009-01-20 15:17:55.906     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 05 CD 95 0F 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:55.921     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 05 CD 95 0F 19 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:56.296     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=05 CD 95 0D D9 F8 27 1B 49
2009-01-20 15:17:56.421     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 0D 3F BF 0F 19 00
2009-01-20 15:17:56.453     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=0D D9 F8 0D 3F BF 0F 19 00 06
2009-01-20 15:17:56.812     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=0D 3F BF 0D D9 F8 27 1B 00

And the Event Log:
Jan 20 2009       15:17:51 Insteon In Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D9.F8] To Address:[0D.D9.F8] Flags:[7] Cmd1:[25] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Direct. From: POWERLINC MODEM To: POWERLINC MODEM, Status Req
Jan 20 2009       15:17:46 Insteon In Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D9.F8] To Address:[0D.D9.F8] Flags:[7] Cmd1:[25] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Direct. From: POWERLINC MODEM To: POWERLINC MODEM, Status Req
Jan 20 2009       15:17:41 Insteon In Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D9.F8] To Address:[0D.D9.F8] Flags:[7] Cmd1:[25] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Direct. From: POWERLINC MODEM To: POWERLINC MODEM, Status Req
Jan 20 2009       15:17:40 Insteon Out Insteon DM Controller PLM transmission of Address:[00.00.0E] Flags:[207] Cmd1:[24] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Group Broadcast. Group: 14, Stop Man Chg
Jan 20 2009       15:17:39 Trigger Check Trigger check of END TABLES MAN STOP performed.
Jan 20 2009       15:17:39 Insteon In Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D3.BC] To Address:[00.00.08] Flags:[203] Cmd1:[24] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Group Broadcast. From: SCENE CONTROLLER Group: 8, Stop Man Chg
Jan 20 2009       15:17:38 Insteon Out Insteon DM Controller PLM transmission of Address:[00.00.0E] Flags:[207] Cmd1:[23] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Group Broadcast. Group: 14, Start Man Chg
Jan 20 2009       15:17:38 Trigger Check Trigger check of END TABLES MAN START performed.
Jan 20 2009       15:17:38 Insteon In Incoming Insteon received on Insteon DM controller PLM. From Address:[0D.D3.BC] To Address:[00.00.08] Flags:[203] Cmd1:[23] Cmd2:[0]. Decode: Group Broadcast. From: SCENE CONTROLLER Group: 8, Start Man Chg

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Tom,

After analyzing the log, it appears that you've added the POWERLINC MODEM as a responder to itself in Group 14. Delete this link and Status Request to itself will go away.

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Posted: January 20 2009 at 17:37 | IP Logged Quote Viper

David,

I just sent you an email via "support" with a snapshot of my responders. Just the two end tables in Group 14.

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