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TonyNo
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I think I captured the strangeness!!
I dimmed a lamp (01.24.B3) to 140 (8Ch), then it popped up to ~100% (FEh?) on its own, and then I brought it back to 122 (7Ah)...
PLC:eventraw=04
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=04 01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 00 FF
3/13/2006 9:05:17 PM:ackmsg=01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 00 FF
PLC:srq:SRIR=04,01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 00 FF
PLC:eventraw=03
ui:srq:srir=00 00 00 01 7A 9F 0F 19 00
si:00 D4 2C 01 7A 9F 0F 19 00
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=04
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=04 01 7A 9F 00 D4 2C 2F 00 00
3/13/2006 9:05:32 PM:ackmsg=01 7A 9F 00 D4 2C 2F 00 00
PLC:srq:SRIR=04,01 7A 9F 00 D4 2C 2F 00 00
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=03
ui:srir=00 00 00 01 24 B3 0F 11 8C
si:00 D4 2C 01 24 B3 0F 11 8C
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=04
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=04 01 24 B3 00 D4 2C AF 11 FE
3/13/2006 9:05:38 PM:ackmsg=01.24.B3:ON at OUT
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:SRIR=03,01 24 B3 00 D4 2C AF 11 FE
ui:srir=00 00 00 01 24 B3 0F 11 7A
si:00 D4 2C 01 24 B3 0F 11 7A
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=04
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=04 01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 11 7A
3/13/2006 9:05:43 PM:ackmsg=01.24.B3:ON at 48%
PLC:SRIR=04,01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 11 7A
PLC:eventraw=03
ui:srq:srir=00 00 00 01 7A 7E 0F 19 00
si:00 D4 2C 01 7A 7E 0F 19 00
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=04
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=04 01 7A 7E 00 D4 2C 2F 00 7B
3/13/2006 9:05:47 PM:ackmsg=01 7A 7E 00 D4 2C 2F 00 7B
PLC:srq:SRIR=04,01 7A 7E 00 D4 2C 2F 00 7B
PLC:eventraw=03
ui:srq:srir=00 00 00 01 24 B3 0F 19 00
si:00 D4 2C 01 24 B3 0F 19 00
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=04
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=04 01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 00 7A
3/13/2006 9:06:03 PM:ackmsg=01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 00 7A
PLC:srq:SRIR=04,01 24 B3 00 D4 2C 2F 00 7A
PLC:eventraw=03
ui:srq:srir=00 00 00 01 7A 9F 0F 19 00
si:00 D4 2C 01 7A 9F 0F 19 00
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Tony,
Yep...I see it. It can all be summed up in this one log block:
ui:srir=00 00 00 01 24 B3 0F 11 8C
si:00 D4 2C 01 24 B3 0F 11 8C
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=04
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=04 01 24 B3 00 D4 2C AF 11 FE
3/13/2006 9:05:38 PM:ackmsg=01.24.B3:ON at OUT
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:SRIR=03,01 24 B3 00 D4 2C AF 11 FE
You can see where the ON command at level 8C is sent to the SDM. The very next line shows the SDM sending the command out at the same level. Then, BOOM, the acknowledgement comes back with the level at FE (254) or full on. The last line shows that this acknowledgment is used as the return for the SRIR command.
It's looks as if either the command was "misinterpreted" by the device or the device is defective. Since you say the device initially went to 50% and then "popped" to 100%, it sounds as if the device might be defective. That or the command was received properly and then a "reflection" was misinterpreted. Reflections and problems such as this may be caused by borderline communications. Im not sure.
In any event, I would definately post at least the SDM blurb I posted above on either the SmartLabs forum or CT since SmartLabs people hang out there and see what they say. Definately wierd though.
Dave.
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Thanks Dave! I'll do that tomorrow; I'm on the road now using my
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Heh! I was trying to use my PPC, but think something went wrong! 
Posted on CT. Now, we wait!
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Well, I swapped a new LampLinc in to that location and it was just at 50% and jumped up to 100%... 
What are the chances of TWO bad modules?  Not much, I think...
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Tony,
I would bet money you dont have two bad modules.
My guess is the physical location or perhaps the actual load plugged into the LampLinc.
I would try a different lamp (perhaps something unique with the lamp...it's not a touch lamp is it?). If that doesnt solve anything, then I would try a different location to try and eliminate a communication problem.
Let me know what you find out.
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The lamp is one of those halogen torches.
I'll next try the module on an incancdescent lamp.
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Is Insteon supposed to work with all the new power-saving/energy efficient light bulbs? I think most of these bulbs are fluorescent. I believe X10 does not work with these bulbs, only with incandescent bulbs.
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It should work with an appliance type module. I don't know what would happen though if using one of those newer lamp flourescent bulbs with a dimmer type switch.
Dave.
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I have some florescent energy saving bulbs in a fixture that is controlled by a dimmer, it will turn on in 'increments' of about 33% until full power if you try to Dim On...
I beleive that this is caused by the bulb, which isn't dimmable. changing to incandescent will eliminate the problem.
Not sure how the behavior shows up in the SDM and what communications are generated... haven't looked. Just decided that "fast on" was the way to go. 
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I moved an incandescent lamp over to the problem module. We'll see what happens...
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Dave,
I think you forgot about me...
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Still no Insteon events coming into PH when I use the Icon dimmers.
Here is data from the SDM when switching off then on...
PLC:eventraw=02
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=02 01 7A 7E 00 00 01 CF 13 00
PLC:eventraw=01
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=01 01 7A 7E 00 D4 2C 45 13 01
PLC:eventraw=03
PLC:eventraw=02
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=02 01 7A 7E 00 00 01 CF 11 00
PLC:eventraw=01
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=01 01 7A 7E 00 D4 2C 45 11 01
PLC:eventraw=03
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No jumping dim level yet!
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1. We figured out that Insteon logging must be enabled for Insteon triggers to work.
2. I put the halogen lamp back in and jumping dim's came back.
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Tony,
Thanks for the update. I'll look into the code and get it fixed for Incoming Insteon so that you don't have to log to get triggers.
I suspected that the load itself was probably the problem. Have you talked to SmartHome about this issue to see what their take is?
I assume that this used to work fine with an X10 switch.
Dave.
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Thanks Dave.
I posted at CT where SmartHome guys frequent but got no response. Time to move it to them directly.
Yup, an X10 module worked just fine.
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Ah ha! From SmartHome...
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| This is a normal issue that happens when you have a lamp module that has local control turned on, which is the default setting for the insteon LampLinc. To remedy this issue simply set the LampLinc to an X address by putting hte device in linking mode (hold hte set button for 10 seconds) and send the x10 address off command 3 times (for example F5 off F5 off F5 off.) This will disable Local control. Then unlink the x10 address from the LampLinc module by holding the set button for 10 seconds, then hold it again for another 10 seconds and then send the X10 off command 3 more times. |
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Well this is an interesting tidbit...I didnt even know that you could disable local control (it may be in the manual and I missed it).
So what they're saying, is that with certain loads (Halogens in this case), you may need to disable local control on a lamplinc to get rid of some strangeness.
I'll definately have to file this one away.
Thanks for keeping us informed of the resolution.
Dave.
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So, this may have an obvious answer, but I can't seem to figure out that it is. How can I send the local control off sequence using power home and a PowerLinc V2 USB controller?
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If you mean so that the switch uses the local ramp rate, Insteon won't let you.
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