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martlist
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OK, have had a full house insteon for several months but only just added the USB controller, Powerhome and my PC into the mix.
I am struggling with the basics of setting up triggers and timers with Insteon.
Here is what I want to do:
I want to use button H of my 8 button keypadlinc as a Home/Away switch. Basically when it is on I want it to set a global variable, say GLOBAL_AWAY to 1. And when truned off set it to 0. Then I can use this in a macro to:
(1) only run my timers when I am out
(2) turn off any lights that are on, maybe with a global off as I have seen in another post.
I have looked through the forums but the problem is I need a specific answer for a noobie idiot, basically telling me exactly what to enter for each trigger :-)
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I do something similar.
I use 2 triggers. One trigger when the button is pressed to on and the other when the button is pressed off.
To create a trigger:
Give the trigger an ID and description - how about AWAY
The action type should be: RAW FORMULA
The action should be:
ph_setglobal_a("GLOBAL_AWAY",1)+ph_macro("NAME OF MACRO YOU WANT TO RUN")
This action sets your GLOBAL_AWAY flag to 1 and then runs a macro to maybe turn on the lights or set the alarm. If you don't want to run a macro just leave that part out.
Action type: Queued
Status: Active
Trigger Type: Insteon Group In
Trigger ID: Name of Your Keypad
Trigger ID Number: 8
Trigger Value: On
Boolean:1
Set up an identical second trigger except change the formula to:
ph_setglobal_a("GLOBAL_AWAY",0)+ph_macro("Name of Macro to Send a global off")
and set the Trigger Value to Off. This sets the Global_Away flag to 0 and runs a macro.
That should do it.
Noel
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Thanks. I was so close. I had everything the same except I had device change instead of raw formula.
I am still missing something as it is not setting the global variable (I have created it in the global section).
Does the keypad switch (8 in this case) need linking to something or need to be in some kind of group with the controller?
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Yes, for a trigger to work the insteon device has to be linked to something. I generally link all my insteon devices to the PLC (the USB controller).
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After much debugging I finally found the root of my problem. I can not trigger off button 1 (the load) or button 8 (which is not linked to any other insteon device).
I can happily trigger off the other 6 buttons as they all control other lamplincs and keypads.
I tried linking the keypadlinc to the usb controller but that doesn't seem to fix the problem.
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You jogged my memory. In an older PH version you couldn't trigger off a PLC link. I thought that was fixed in a later version, but apparently not. So just link button 8 to another insteon device.
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martlist
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I have the perfect thing. I have a spare lamplinc that smarthome replaced free of charge because the plug connection was faulty. The send receive works fine though and so it makes a perfect dummy device.
Any idea why I couldn't trigger off the load (button 1)? Seems weird. Oh well, not something I need to do now anyway.
Thanks for all your help Noel. Very much appreciated.
Now its time to learn macros :-)
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Martlist,
Yes, in order for a trigger to fire, PowerHome must see an Insteon communication. Insteon communications are only sent if the controlling button is actually linked to another device.
However, you should be able to link button 1 (the load button) to the PLC with the button as a controller and the PLC as a responder and have the trigger fire. If this doesnt work, let me know because it will be a bug and I'll get it fixed.
Dave.
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I am relinking everything to the controller in a single group 254 now as part of setting up an all off group. Will see if this fixes the problem.
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OK, all working fine now. Problem was linking order of keypadlinc bug. Thanks Noel and Dave for all your help
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Glad it's working now.
Dave.
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