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I have an X10 motion sensor that I use to detect motion at a doorway to turn on the shop lights when I enter the shop if it is dark, or turn on a warning light (strobe) if the dust collector is on, to alert me to the presence of someone else in the room when I'm working.
I also have a light switch at the doorway.
There are times, when coming out of the shop, the motion sensor, sees me and starts the "SHOP MOTION" macro. But before it completes, I turn off the switch at the doorway which fires the "SHOP LIGHTS OFF" macro and turns off the lights.
Here is the order of things (in time order) from the log:
- Incoming X10 A14 On
- Trigger Check of SHOP MOTION performed.
- Macro SHOP MOTION executed.
- Insteon In SHOP LIGHTS Group 1, Off
- Trigger Check of SHOP LIGHTS OFF performed.
- Insteon Out SHOP LIGHTS, On
- Macro SHOP LIGHTS OFF performed.
So, what that says to me is that while the SHOP MOTION macro is executing, I get the lights turned off. The SHOP MOTION macro thinks the lights need to be turned on.
So Dave, I'm guessing I need the super secret code to allow a trigger (SHOP LIGHTS OFF) to run immediately. I want the trigger to call a macro that immediately disables the "SHOP MOTION" trigger (in case it hasn't yet fired) and sets the "SHOP MOTION ENABLED" global to 0, the calls another macro in "POST" mode to complete the other processing I need done when the lights go out. In the "SHOP MOTION" macro, I will check the "SHOP MOTION ENABLED" global, just before before turning the SHOP LIGHTS on to determine if the operation should really proceed or not.
I know that I could do a wait to force the "SHOP LIGHTS OFF" onto the queue, but that would defeat one of my other goals which is to have the lights come on as quickly as possible when I enter the shop.
Of course the best fix would be to have a motion sensor that is detected immediately, unlike the X10 one I have now. Then I'd have instant on lights when I enter the room, and the trigger would detect the lights are still on when I leave the room....
Tom
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Dave,
I slept on the problem the last few days and the solution finally came to me (I solve most of my problems by sleeping on them).
In the boolean field of the SHOP LIGHTS OFF trigger, I set the SHOP MOTION ENABLED global to 0 (disabled), then force the boolean value to 1 to allow the trigger to post the SHOP LIGHTS OFF macro for later execution.
The SHOP MOTION macro tests the SHOP MOTION ENABLED global just before it actually turns on the SHOP LIGHTS, thus reducing the window for a false on to as small as possible.
Thanks for providing a way to do this.
Tom
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Tom,
Yep, thats probably the best way. As you've discovered, the super secret (I like that) is that the Boolean field is executed immediately, ahead of the execution queue. You just have to be very careful of what you execute here (you wouldnt want to execute and Insteon Out command on an Insteon Incoming trigger...thats a sure way to lock your system). Setting globals and other variables however are just fine.
Another thing you could probably do is just as you've guessed, use a Wait command to allow the rest of the Execution queue to process (you seem to have a good idea of the inner workings  ). You could make this Wait command value extremely small such as 0.001 so that the Wait is effectively just allowing the rest of the queue to process. Either way should work though.
Glad to hear that you did come up with a solution. I also do alot of problem solving in my sleep. My biggest problem is trying to remember all of the problems Ive solved and write the answers down before I forget them (and have to wait for the next night to solve them again  ).
Dave.
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Thanks Dave
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