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tbeckman
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 12:09 | IP Logged Quote tbeckman

Can an PLC 2412S we used with powerhome, I am currently using the 2414S, but would like to move that over to my Elk? Thanks.
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 17:09 | IP Logged Quote funbobbybaby69

I too would like to know the answer to this.

Im trying to reverse the insteon command (send a OFF command when it's sending an ON command)

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Posted: April 13 2008 at 20:54 | IP Logged Quote ginigma

Support for the PLM is in the new Alpha version. Take a look at http://www.power-home.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1738

As for the Elk integration, check this: http://www.power-home.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=818

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Posted: April 16 2008 at 02:25 | IP Logged Quote grif091

For funbobbybaby69 - Currently PH, running on the PC, goes through a PLC to send/receive commands to/from the powerline. What the Alpha support for PLM provides is the ability for PH, running on the PC, to send/receive commands to/from the powerline through a PLM rather than a PLC. What you are looking for is to change the configuration for ON/OFF OFF/ON state transition of an EZIO8SA, which is configuration information maintained inside the EZIO8SA, not the PLM the EZIO8SA uses to communicate as a device with the Insteon network. Each Insteon device, like a Switchlinc or Keypadlinc, has PLM like capability built into the device, that the device uses to communicate with the Insteon network. Just so happens that an EZIO8SA uses an external PLM to communicate with the Insteon network rather than an internal one that exists in "normal" Insteon devices. You don't need PH PLM support unless you have two PLMs, the one that PH will use to communicate through (where it is now using a PLC) and the one the EZIO8SA is connected to, to communicate as a device with the Insteon network.

PH on PC <--> PLC or PLM(alpha only) <--> powerline

EZIO8SA <--> PLM <--> powerline
Switchlinc <--> (internal PLM) <--> powerline

I'm not sure PH has the logic to set the internal state change configuration (switching the Insteon commands used on an Input state change) of an EZIO8SA. The key is that the configuration information is contained in the EZIO8SA, not the PLM the EZIO8SA is using to communicate with the Insteon network. If you have a PLC for PH to communicate through, you don't have to use the alpha. If you have a PLC then the SHN Utility Suite or PH, if it has the logic to set EZIO8SA configuration information, can use it to communicate with the powerline and change the EZIO8SA configuration. If you have two PLMs (no PLC), one for PH to communicate through and one for the EZIO8SA to communicate through, then you will need to use the alpha or wait until Dave integrates the alpha into the beta. As Paul mentioned before, SHN Utility Suite does not have support for communicating through a PLM.   

SHN Utility Suite on PC <--> PLC <--> powerline OR
PH on PC <--> PLC <--> powerline OR
PH on PC <--> PLM(alpha only) <--> powerline

SHN Utility Suite on PC <--> PLM <--> powerline NOT SUPPORTED


EZIO8SA <--> PLM <--> powerline SUPPORTED NOW
Switchlinc <--> (internal PLM) <--> powerline SUPPORTED NOW

Hope this has not made it more confusing than it was.

EDIT: added additional < arrows to reflect that communication is in both directions.

EDIT: It is probably incorrect that the configuration data is stored in the physical EZIO8SA device. Other EZIOxx devices that are packaged inside a PLM, with the EZIOxx daughter board plugged into the PLM motherboard, actually have their data memory mapped into the lower bytes of the PLM memory. The EZIO8SA, although packaged in a separate housing because of the space required, probably stores the configuration data in the lower bytes of the PLM memory, just as other EZIOxx devices do. Does not change the basic premise of how the EZIO8SA/PLM combo is communicated with, only where the configuration data is physically stored.

Edited by grif091 - April 16 2008 at 06:36


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Posted: June 16 2008 at 09:15 | IP Logged Quote funbobbybaby69

Thank you very much for all the info!
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