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mr914 Newbie
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Posted: March 10 2003 at 21:38 | IP Logged
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Greetings.
3 weeks of Powerhome running without a glitch!
Now that I have some stable code, its time for a few enhancements....
I have 3 Switchlink 2 way switches that I want to further integrate into Powerhome....
1) I would like to enhance the X10 Status screen to add controls for [on] [off] [Adim]
2) I would like to use the preset dims in incoming triggers, but it appears that entering the preset value in the boolean feild is not causing a trigger to activate.
Anyone else have one of these installed?
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: March 11 2003 at 16:45 | IP Logged
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Only three weeks!!! Why Ive had my system running for 6 months without a reboot .
Concerning the enhancements...Im not sure I understand item 1. The X-10 status screen already has on, off, and adim. Elaborate a little more for me, Im getting slow lately .
Item 2. The boolean field is whether or not to fire the trigger. If the formula evaluation of the boolean field is 0 or false, then the trigger will not fire. Any other value and the trigger should go. Now the actual preset dim value will be contained within the [TEMP3] system variable (this value is from 1 to 32 representing the 32 preset dim levels). You can check this value in the boolean statement if you wish to have the trigger only fire when certain preset dim values are received.
Let me know if this clears things up or not or if you still have any questions.
Dave.
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seattlechris Groupie
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Posted: March 13 2003 at 11:04 | IP Logged
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Six months without a reboot? Wow. My windows 98 based PC
running only powerhome & windows freezes about once or twice a week.
I do have an automated watchdog/reboot scheme, which helps,
but I'm envious of your system's reliability. Which o/s are
you using if you don't mind me asking?
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: March 13 2003 at 12:14 | IP Logged
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Chris,
Up until recently I was running 98 SE . Ive since reloaded and am now running XP Pro. The 6 month uptime was on the 98 system too!! Im up approximately 2 months so far on the XP without a reboot.
Freezing once or twice a week is terrible!! The machine that PowerHome is running on is the machine that sits alongside my Home Theater equipment and is only used for PowerHome, Webcams, MP3's, and web browsing if that makes a difference.
Does it seem that your freezes are associated with PowerHome or were they there previously? Im really concerned because one of the advantages I thought I had over other Home Automation programs was the stability inherent within PowerHome. Ive read of people using other Home Automation programs and having to do periodic and timed reboots in order to keep their system stable and always thought that would be such a pain.
Windows 2000 or XP would definately be more stable than 98. If you're not running SE, then upgrading to SE would also be a big help. But 98 SE should be able to run continously as long as memory leaking programs were not run.
My current PowerHome machine: P-III 600 mhz with 512 meg of RAM. ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon. SB Live. Windows XP Pro.
BTW, how long has it been since you've reloaded your OS?? When I was running 98 on my notebook (the machine where I do all my development and gets beat on a lot more than the PowerHome machine), I typically liked to format and reload from scratch about once a year.
Dave.
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seattlechris Groupie
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Posted: March 13 2003 at 13:29 | IP Logged
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I'm running windows 98 first edition. I don't think the
freezes are due to powerhome, I figured it was windows or
the hardware. This machine is dedicated to powerhome, but
it also launches a time synchronization program once or twice
a day, and uses outlook express as the MAPI client every few minutes.
The o/s installation is fairly new and clean (installed
on a newly formatted disk). My guess is that it's either a memory
leak, or a hardware problem with the IDE.
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: March 13 2003 at 13:56 | IP Logged
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Chris,
The second edition is definately a lot more stable than the first.
You also reminded me of another problem. I too use the MAPI client with Outlook Express and that seems to cause problems. While Windows never locks up, sometimes PowerHome will if I do a lot of EMail sending with the MAPI. The receiving seems to be fine, just sending gives me a headache. This is one of the reasons that the next version has a new SMTP send email function .
Like you've guessed, sometimes the hardware just doesn't play well with the OS. I had a machine with a Cyrix 233 mhz processor and I was having to reboot about once a week. I was really glad when I gave that machine the boot.
Depending on what your CPU and RAM look like, you might want to invest in XP Home. You would probably beef up the reliability by an order of magnitude.
Dave.
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seattlechris Groupie
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Posted: March 13 2003 at 15:27 | IP Logged
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Excellent suggestions all Dave, I appreciate the info.
I'll switch over to the ph send email function when you
release it-- I like that idea.
I'm upgrading to 98SE right now. I would do XP, but I'm just
too cheap and the stability is actually good enough given the
watchdog and reboot. Besides, it's nice to know I wasn't
wasting my time by configuring the watchdog board
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mr914 Newbie
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Posted: June 12 2004 at 22:24 | IP Logged
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Bump
Has anyone installed any of the Switchlink 2 way switches?
KC
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: June 13 2004 at 14:24 | IP Logged
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Keith,
I don't have any of the SwitchLinc switches but do have some 2-way switches and modules running.
Dave.
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Dean Senior Member
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Posted: December 27 2004 at 22:46 | IP Logged
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I just installed a ToggleLinc 2-Way Dimmer switch with BoosterLinc. The switch works fine when used manually (actually touching the switch to turn it on and off) but when I use PowerHome (or a PalmPad, etc.) to turn it on, very often (like half the time) the light turns on and then off again immediately. In the PowerHome event log I can see two lines for the Outgoing X-10 B1 On and then I immediately see two entries for Incoming X-10 B1 Off. Also, the PowerHome X-10 status screen shows the light turn on and then off again to coincide with the event log.
Anyone have any clues as to what could cause this? I have noise filters on all the devices in my home that I know cause problems. I have a Leviton coupler/repeater in my electric panel. I also have a Leviton signal attenuator (I think that is what it is called) to block/reduce any noise coming from outside my home. I I do have 60-watt light bulbs in the lights that are being controlled as per X-10 specs.
I can't think of anything else to try. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-Dean
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: December 28 2004 at 18:40 | IP Logged
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Dean,
Cant remember what controller you are using but I have a Leviton coupler/booster installed at my breaker box and had all kinds of problems using a CM11A. The CM11A would periodically lockup and the lights would do wierd things. I swapped out the CM11A thinking that it might be going bad but had the same problems. Since moving to the Ocelot, it doesnt seem to suffer but Ive heard of others having intermittent problems with boosters.
On to your problem...You say that when you use the palm pad, the light turns on and then immediately turns off (same with PowerHome). The first thing I would do is disconnect your controller (CM11A or similar) so that PowerHome or any embedded macros in your controller will be taken out of the loop. Then try the palmpad again and see what happens. If it still has a problem, then we've at least isolated triggers within PowerHome, embedded macros, and flaky controllers.
Since you're logging the X-10 B1 on and getting an immediate X-10 B1 Off, it would seem that something is triggering that X-10 B1 Off (unless the ToggleLinc itself is sending the command). It may be easiest to start switching circuit breakers off to try and isolate what is generating the signal.
I cant think of anything else at the moment. Let me know where you're at on this.
Dave.
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Dean Senior Member
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Posted: December 28 2004 at 23:25 | IP Logged
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Dave,
I disconnected the CM11A from the wall. Since I have the W800RF32, I had to plug in a tranceiver module to place my PalmPad commands on the power line. Same problem happens. (I also tried two other CM11As just to rule out a flaky controller, but they all did the same thing.)
I'll have to try the circuit breakers tomorrow (my wife is going to kill me, she already thinks I am nuts with all this home automation stuff ) and report back.
Thanks,
-Dean
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: December 29 2004 at 00:29 | IP Logged
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Great testing Dean. So it would appear that we have eliminated PowerHome and the CM11A.
Will await the results of your breaker switching.
Dave.
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Dean Senior Member
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Posted: January 01 2005 at 10:53 | IP Logged
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First off, Happy New Year to everyone.
Well, I finally got around to turning off all my circuit breakers to see if that would help. I had all the breakers off except the breaker with the ToggleLinc wall switch and I still had the problem. I went around unplugging whatever I could on the same circuit, still no luck. I even tried changing the House/Unit code to something else, still no luck.
I'm beginning to think it is the ToggleLinc switch itself. What still makes me unsure is that the behavior is not consistent. Although very often (50% or more of the time) when the ToggleLinc receives the B1 On command it turns right off; or turns off, then on, and then off again. It does not do this 100% of the time, which is why I am not 100% certain it is the ToggleLinc.
I do have a support ticket open with SmartHome.com, but they are very, very slow in their responses. I also contacted automatedoutlet.com (where I bought the switch) but they have not even replied to me in about 5 days since I e-mailed them.
Any other ideas would be helpful and appreciated.
Thanks,
-Dean
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TonyNo Moderator Group
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Posted: January 01 2005 at 16:56 | IP Logged
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Dean,
Try the forum at cocoontech.com for Automated Outlet. Martin (The guy that runs AO) frequents there, and, has his official support area there, too. I've heard his support is supposed to be good.
Tony
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Dean Senior Member
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Posted: January 05 2005 at 21:36 | IP Logged
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OK, did some more troubleshooting to try to pinpoint my problem. I installed the ToggleLinc 2-way switch in two other locations in my home (different circuits). In all locations the same problem occured: if the switch received an X-10 on command (via PalmPad, Maxi Controller, etc.), very often the light would turn on, then right off (sometimes even on, off, on, and off).
Also during all this testing, I noticed that the problem occured more often when the ToggleLinc was screwed into the single-gang box. If I had the ToggleLinc just hanging out of the switch box the problem did not happen or not nearly as often. This leads me to believe that perhaps one of the ToggleLinc wires inside the switch may be loose or somehow when the ToggleLinc is snug within the single-gang box something pinches, etc.
Tony, thanks for the tip on talking to Martin. I gave Automated Outlet a call and spoke with Martin and he could not think of anything else to try that I hadn't tried already. So I'm sending the switch back.
Thanks for all your help. If I do get a replacement (I'm a bit weary of getting another ToggleLinc) I'll post how the install of that switch goes.
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Dean Senior Member
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 23:02 | IP Logged
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Well, it only took me 6 months to finally solve this one. Actually, it would have been a lot soon, I just didn't have the time to work on it. The problem was a defective ToggleLinc switch. I got the replacement switch about 4 months or so ago, just installed it this past weekend. Everything seems to work great.
The 2-way switch really allows me to do some nice stuff with PowerHome. I have a motion detector in our master bathroom that turns the light on at night when we walk in the room. The light will remain on for about 4 minutes after we leave (i.e. after no motion is detected). My wife hated me when she would take a shower and the light would go off. Now, with the 2-way switch, she manually hits the light switch on which triggers PowerHome to kill the macro that turned the light on and also disables the trigger from firing again. Then when she leaves she hits the switch off which enables the motion trigger again. I also have the motion macro set to turn the light on at a lower setting after 1:00am so we don't wake up to use the bathroom and have the bright lights blast on.
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TonyNo Moderator Group
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 00:02 | IP Logged
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Good going!
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