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williammanda Groupie
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 12:29 | IP Logged
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I couldn't find an answer as to whether Powerhome can use a tablet such as the Nokia 770 or similar.
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TonyNo Moderator Group
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:20 | IP Logged
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You can get to PH web pages with its web browser, and you can also remote into your PH machine with a Remote Desktop app that seems to be readily available for the Nokias.
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onhiatus Senior Member
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 15:15 | IP Logged
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I use a 770 as a budget wall screen - it mostly works great.
Originally I used the build in Opera browser, but the pages got a bit to heavy (I was using alot of java script) so now I use the 770 to remote desktop into a machine (runing XP unlimited free - so multiple remotes are alowed) that has Opera running in kiosk (full screen) mode.
Here are a few relevant posts:
My wall screen interface
"PSP Pages - no refreshing"
Nokia 770 $129.99 on woot
Or point your 770's browser at my demo screens online:
http://www.onhiatus.com/house/770home2.htm
Note that my demo is optimized for Opera, sort of works for IE (refreshes work, formating sucks), and does not work at all under default FireFox settings.
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williammanda Groupie
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Posted: December 31 2008 at 16:20 | IP Logged
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Thanks for all the great info!
I have one last question concerning the Nokia internet tablet. I like what what you have done to make the tablet work but I ran across a program that the average user could use to setup the tablet. This is the site:
http://www.interfacego.com/
With the added function of a webcam and mic this could possibly be used to screen unwanted sales people, etc... from within the home. Thoughts.
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williammanda Groupie
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Posted: December 31 2008 at 16:29 | IP Logged
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I wanted to share one last thing. During my research of the Nokia tablet I also found what I believe will fill the bill for me as far as an all in one solution (home automation & media center).
This site: http://maemo.org/
Lists several 3rd party addons for the Nokia tablet and one of them is for a media center remote. Since I use linux mainly and the media center product Mythtv, the addon Mythetomer would allow me to control all my media centers and powerhome would take care of the home automation.
I not sure this would help the vast majority here but it may help a few.
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cruelkix Groupie
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I'm actually from the other side of the tracks. I bought a Nokia n810 and caught wind of it being used for home automation. I then found Onhiatus on the nokia forums and he pointed me here. The Maemo community is great! Its a little less friendly than this one, but tons of information and apps.
The 3rd party options are key. I will be using my n810 just like onhiatus to remote desktop into my server and control my home automation setup from anywhere in the house and out of the house. Head over to www.internettablettalk.com to get way more information than you can really handle without purchasing one.
I am in the same phase as you are right now as I have unfortunately just had to return my PowerLinc V2 cuz it was faulty ..... I'm slightly bummered but I have a few dimmers installed and they quickly solved a multi-circuit wiring problem that was driving me nuts (worth the $90 for the tow dimmers as far as I am concerned). I'm excited to get started on home automation. With a lot of time (and money ) this will be really cool!
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williammanda Groupie
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onhiatus
Are you still running XP unlimited free? What does this actually do? Also does this prevent other linux based programs from running? Does you program work with the N810?
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cruelkix Groupie
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 11:53 | IP Logged
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williammanda wrote:
onhiatus
Are you still running XP unlimited free? What does this actually do? Also does this prevent other linux based programs from running? Does you program work with the N810?
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Onhiatus suggested the same thing to me and I found XP ulimited to no longer be free. I did a lot of searching and found a hack that allowed more than one remote desktop at a time. I cant remmeber where it was but if you look around you can find it.
BOth Onhiatus and I use a remote desktop client for the n770/n800/n810 and it works great (I use pyrdesktop, it rocks). You put PowerHome up and running (like the Control Center on top) and then you remote in and you can walk around the house and control everything form teh palm of your hand just like you were sitting at your XP box.
Let me know if this helps.
Cruelkix
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jbbtex Senior Member
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 14:24 | IP Logged
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This http://www.kood.org/terminal-server-patch/ is supposed to let you have more than one session concurrently. But (disclaimer) I have not tried it.
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Cruelkix
Is this the url for pyrdesktop?
http://www.pyrodesktop.org/Main_Page
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cruelkix Groupie
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 14:43 | IP Logged
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That is the one I used. Works good for me.
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cruelkix Groupie
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 14:45 | IP Logged
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williammanda wrote:
Cruelkix
Is this the url for pyrdesktop?
http://www.pyrodesktop.org/Main_Page
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If you have an n810 you should be able to install it through the repositories.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22 716
That will lead you to the install if you cant find the correct repository.
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onhiatus Senior Member
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Posted: January 19 2009 at 12:13 | IP Logged
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I'm still using XP unlimited - triap edition - it limits you to three concurrant connections. Which works for me (two tablets, one "administrative"). When I installed XP unlimited I had to dig to find the free version - the newer version was pay only (and it's not cheap). But take that with a grain of salt as it was well over a year ago. If I were starting over I would go with the XP registry hack.
Running remote desktop should not stop any other programs from running on the device - though it performance might be affected.
My "program" is just a series of web pages. They're optimized for Opera (which comes on the 770), and I think I remember hearing that they changed browsers for the 8xx tablets - so the pages might not work as well. The pages got big enough that the 770 was really bogging down trying to run the javascript so I had much better performace remoting in and running desktop Opera in kiosk mode (full screen)
Except for the occasional random remote desktop disconect (happens every few days) this setup works great. Pyrdesktop is supposed to have auto-reconnect, but I haven't heard of any success on a 770 (successful installs, but without the auto-reconnect working), and to install it on the 770 requires flashing the hacker edition - which I can't be bothered to do...
Have fun! Tony (Onhiatus)
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williammanda Groupie
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Let me get this straight....
It seems I have two options for using a Nokia internet tablet.
1. Use rdesktop and/or pyrdesktop. Using this I would need to have Powerhome as the focused window on the server during use of the internet tablet. If this is correct, I'm going to have a problem since I use the server for other uses during the day (trading).
2. Create webpages for the internet tablet and still use rdesktop. Will I have the same problem as in option #1 or can the webpages gain access to the server while the server in running another focused program?
Is it possible to control powerhome devices via an internet tablet while working with another program on the server? Also would this involve programming knowledge?
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onhiatus Senior Member
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 14:02 | IP Logged
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Neither is an issue if you can log in with multiple accounts at the same time (via the XP hack, or XP unlimited) - each user has their own desktop and own set of programs running. So the account your tablet is signed into just has a browser running (or powerhome, or CC, etc). For my "remote" accounts (each remote tablet has to have a separate account) I start up opera and put it in kiosk mode - so there's no way for other programs to get started or the browser to loose focus.
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