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I just replaced several Insteon light switches and used, for the first time, the Devices tab "Replace Address" to modify the device info from the old to a new Insteon Address.
PH went thru a Delete/Add links process and it looked like the right thing was happening, but while I can control the new switches from PH none of my linked switches can.
The PH Links tab shows "FLAGGED CREATE" in the Resp Link Status window for all devices linked to the replaced switches.
I have Rebuilding and trashing the links and restoring them, but all to no avail. I can't get PH to create the links. 
Any suggestions on how to get past this conundrum?
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Fixed it, but not sure why.
In an act of desperation I did a "Scan DB" on one of the affected switches in the Devices tab.
It caused PH to finally execute the Save that I couldn't get it to do, and all of the Flagged Create links were properly rebuilt and things are working again.
I've had PH refuse to execute a Save before, but this was the worst ever. Not sure why it takes such a stubborn position from time to time re: saving. 
Fortunately, it doesn't happen very often.
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Ken,
When using the "Replace Address" function in Insteon Explorer, PowerHome will automatically flag the device as "Disabled". This is done in case the hardware hasnt actually made it into the wall yet and gives you a chance to hook eveything up before actually starting to write the links. If everything is good to go after saving changes with replace device, just instantly uncheck the disabled box and save again to get the links writing right away.
Hope this helps,
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Thanks Dave.
That makes sense! I never noticed the "Disable". The Replace Address is a neat feature that I JUST DISCOVERED!
All these years I have been adding a new device and then copying over the links from the old one then going thru and deleting the out-of-date links from the "linked to" devices.
Replace Address is soooooooo much simpler 
It's starting to get cold here in Michigan, so we are already looking forward to seeing you in FL again in April after we come up from Naples.
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Will definitely look forward to it  . Replace address definitely simplifies things and keep your links compact because it reuses the previous entries rather than creating gaps in the database. Check out the "Link Fragmentation" report under "Reports" in Insteon Explorer.
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Almost a year after I first posted this question, I just
used the "Replace Address" feature, but have gotten
myself into a situation I can't seem to get out of.
I put the new address in for a device then checked the
"Disabled" attribute, then Saved.
I put the new switch in then went back to PH and
unchecked "Disabled" then Saved but never got any Link
updates for the device. The link status was always
"FLAGGED CREATE".
Then I noticed that the Disabled attributes were
rechecked for both the replaced device and it's linked-to
Remote switch.
I unchecked Disabled and Saved, but links still show
FLAGGED CREATE and when I got back and look at Disabled
it is recehcked again.
I can't get Disabled to uncheck and stay that way.
I'm wondering if I confused PH by checking Disabled
myself before saving the New Address change, and now PH
is just doing the opposite of what it should be doing?!
Any way to recover, short of deleting the device and then
adding it back in? 
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I got frustrated and Deleted the new device and it's
linked remote switch, then closed and restarted PH.
Added the two devices back in and Saved and rebooted
again.
Still have FLAGGED CREATE status in the Links window for
the link status.
Even if I try the Rebuild option with or without a Save
after it, nothing happens. No Operations are completed.
I have cured the Disabled fiasco at least but can't build
links into the new switch although I can control the
switch from the Device's Control tab.
Ideas?
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Ken,
Two things to check. Make sure that "Enable Pending" is checked and the "Poll Interval" is a value > 0. Next make sure that the device is flagged as COMM failed (reddish background). Just to be sure, I would click the top of the "Clear Failed" column to place a check in all the rows of the clear failed column. Save changes.
Hope this helps,
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If this is a new purchase what device type is it. Many of the Insteon devices are shipping with I2CS firmware which requires the I2CS Zip updates Dave posted a few weeks back..
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Dave/Lee -
Thanks for jumping in. Unfortunately been there done
that on everything.
I installed the 214 update with i2cs support within days
of its release in August.
The new device I installed was a run of the mill 2477D
Dual Band Insteon Dimmer Switch.
I have deleted both that new device and the remote switch
it was linked to and inserted new devices to replace
them.
This cleared up the running battle I was having with the
Disable persistence issue, but both the new and remote
devices continue to show FLAGGED CREATE in their Explorer
Links Window.
I've cleared comm, cleared failed, scan(ed)db all
multiple times but the FLAGGED status remains.
On at least one occasion I saw what seemed to be proper
link creation posted in the Completed Operations pane,
but the FLAGGED status never corrected.
Enable Pending, Status Scan, Level/Ramp/X10 Scan and
Write Level/Ramp/X10 are all checked. All else
unchecked. Poll Interval has been 10 all the time.
I have Saved and Rebuilt multiple times as well as
Initialized and terminated/restarted PH.
Nothing gets my FLAGGED CREATE status to show VERIFIED.
I can contorl both switches (master/slave) from the PH
Device Control Tab, and manual operation of both switches
cause the light to work properly and the other switch to
show a correct level status on their LEDs.
I'm stumped.
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Hi Ken,
Just curious to see if you figured this out. I get the same behavior with two new Insteon LED light bulbs.
Thanks,
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Iulian -
My bad! I intended to post back, but forgot.
I did get it going, but I'm not sure I totally know
why/how I did it
Be sure to check your Devices tab in Explorer. Make sure
you devices with changed addresses do NOT have their
"Disabled" attribute checked. PH checks this
automatically when you input a new device address, so
that you can then go wire up the new switch and then come
back to PH and uncheck the "Disabled" box then back in
Explorer click on the Save/Refresh button to push out the
new links.
I often have problems getting PH to then actually Save
the changes. Often nothing happens. If the Save/Refresh
works then you will see the changes posted in the Pending
Operations pane of Insteon Explorer, and after they are
pushed out you should then see them moved to the
Completed Operations pane. Make sure you have the
"Enable Pending" box checked in the top pane of the
Explorer window.
When I can't get PH to do anything, I have often found
that shutting it down and then restarting will force the
changes to be executed.
Also to check that the devices are connected to PH, try
going to the Devices Tab and click on the Control button
for your new device and make sure you can really turn it
on/off. You can also try in the Explorer Setup Tab to
Clear the PLC/PLM database and then do a "Add Min" to
push everything back out.
Usually one of these will fix the problem.
In my case, one of my problem links was to a 2240
RemoteLinc device which only can be linked when it is in
linking mode, which it only stays in for 2 minutes to
keep from running its batteries down. Once I realized
that was the problem and put the 2240 back into Linking
Mode, then I cleared up the last of my difficulties.
Hopefully you can too.
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Ivulpe,
One thing you'll definitely want to make sure of is that you're on version 2.1.4 with the I2CS patch. I just got one of these bulbs the other day and was just playing with it yesterday and couldnt get it to do anything in my own setup...not even turn it on or off. After careful analysis of the logs, I could tell it was an I2CS device (I suspect ALL the Insteon LED's are). Im running a test version that doesnt have the I2CS support yet. Once I loaded the development version with I2CS, control/setup/everything was no problem.
Hope this helps,
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Thanks Ken/Dave,
I'll try again when i get home tonight. I'm running version 2.1.4 with the I2CS patch so I'm not sure what's wrong. I have all kind of problems lately with my setup. All my x10 units stopped working a while ago and i can't get them to work again. I can control a few but the PLC is not reading the status for any of them. BTW, I managed to get the bulbs to work but only after i manually linked them to the controller.
Best,
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It might just be a finger check but your last post indicates a PLC as the Controller. The PLC does not support any extended I2 commands let alone I2CS. A PLM is required for the new devices.
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Thanks Lee,
It is a PLC and somehow, beside that disabled flag in the devices tab, I
got it to work with all my insteon devices including these two light
bulbs. It the x10 that puzzle me. I ordered an PLM and had a few
problems with the first unit I got. Waiting fo the replacement.
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