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crisx Groupie
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 15:05 | IP Logged
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Windows keeps nagging me to upgrade to Windows 10. Anyone running Powerhome under Windows 10 yet? Any issues?
Thanks,
Cris
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gg102 Senior Member
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 15:33 | IP Logged
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I tried it. PH runs, but not everything else does. Many programs don't work anymore. Even MS flight simulator-9 won't run! MS has decided that I should not be running THAT program anymore, so they won't allow me to run it! That's bad!
I ended up returning to win-7.
My opinion is that win 10 is too buggy still. Seems to me that MS had a completely different group working in win 10 than win 7. They once again screwed up things. Win 7 is nicely organized, works solidly. Win 10 is very disorganized, and a step backwards. All the "reviews" seem to me that they are from insiders. They don't seem to discuss the bugs, or spyware, or login issues.
'Settings' have been broken up into at least two sections rather than consolidated in ONCE place, If an icon is created on the desktop, it can't be moved - it's stuck. The windows do not have a 3d look, they have a scorching flat look. Even win 3.1 looked nicer. The "start menu" that they "restored" is bad. I loaded a 3rd party one START-X.
The internals seem to run well, but the UI sucks IMHO. Login issues make it hard to know if stuck or waiting. When I boot the machine, I get the "black screen" until I press enough buttons to get something to do something. Then, eventually, I get a login screen.
Booting takes forever. Win 7 boots rather nicely, win 10 seems to take about 5 minutes before you can click a desktop icon. I installed it on a 2.8GHz i7 8 core machine with 12GB Ram and 2TB disk. Should be faster, not 5 minutes to boot!!!!
Passwords are confusing. I have a password on my machine, but that's not the password you use to login, you use your MS account password. Well, what happens if you have no internet connection? Then what password do you use?????
With all the SPYING that MS now does in win 10, it's just not worth it IMO. You can turn off some of the spying (with a 3rd party app), but not all of it. I don't want MS to log my keystrokes, have my passwords, contacts, know who I send email to, take my calendar, or know what programs I have or run, and I certainly don't want them to delete things just because THEY decide I should not have it. It's MY PC not theirs!!!
Just MY experience so far.
I'm back on Win 7 and I will be for a long time!
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crisx Groupie
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 15:56 | IP Logged
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Thanks gg102. You just convinced me to hold of upgrading my Powerhome computer. I upgraded my desktop computer to Windows 10 last week and have almost exactly all of the complaints that you have. Seeing them in writing and listed out makes me wonder why I believed all of the positive 'reviews' out there in the first place.
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BeachBum Super User
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Posted: August 18 2015 at 16:15 | IP Logged
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I've been testing 10 on my spare machine since last October and I agree. I run my critical stuff on 7. Internally it runs fine but the interfaces are cumbersome. PH runs but you have to install your own startup.
__________________ Pete - X10 Oldie
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lizaoreo Groupie
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Posted: August 22 2015 at 16:12 | IP Logged
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I've been using it since the second public release was available to Insiders on my laptop I use for work. It was pretty buggy in the early builds, but the last 2 or 3 before official release were pretty darn stable. I've upgraded all my main PCs except my desktop at work, holding off for RSAT on that one.
My PowerHome PC is Server 2012r2 though, so I can't comment on it specifically, but if it runs I really don't see a reason not to go with 10.
Not trying to start an argument or persuade someone to use something they don't like :) But I did want to provide a different experience touching on gg102's points.
I've noticed a few little things, but nothing major and some of what I've seen may be due to the fact I did an upgrade from 7/8.1 rather than a clean install. I've not had any programs not run except Cisco VPN client (not the AnyConnect version, the older one) and got the not compatible message where it flat out refuses to try. I'm not surprised on that though, it wouldn't run on 8 either without some major tinkering. I'm thinking there is probably a way around it, but they made it so non-technical people won't likely install something that could likely causes issues they can't fix.
I've not had any issues finding settings, you can pretty much find anything in Control Panel where it's always been and then most everything is now also available through the new Settings app. Some newer settings are only in the Settings app of course, but I think they are trying to get everything in it and then do away with the Control Panel completely in time.
No idea what you mean by a desktop icon being stuck? I've deleted icons, created them, and moved them around on the desktop.
Booting for me has been just as fast (I wouldn't say faster) as 8 for the most part and somewhat faster than 7, just like 8 was. I've read they're working on improving it and battery life though.
Note you do not need a Microsoft account login setup unless you want it that way, my Windows 7 box I upgraded acts as a server of sorts so I left it with a local login instead of linking it with my Microsoft account. They do make it unobvious though, you have to click an option down in the corner somewhere and skip the Microsoft account setup, or last time I did an install you did, but that was the same with Windows 8/8.1. It's basically the same as with Apple/Google and their stuff.
You also don't have to install or use any of the apps if you don't want to. If you do use a Microsoft account and happen to be disconnected from the Internet it just uses a cache, the same way an AD account does on a domain joined PC.
I do use a Microsoft account though and I love the convenience it brings with it, settings, favorites sync, and wifi networks sync between my computers and my phone. I also use multifactor authentication, as I do with anything that supports it for security. So someone other than me can't just log into a random computer if they get my password or hack it or whatever. But, that's a personal choice and some people prefer the privacy to the convenience factor :)
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