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ronbo404
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Hi Newbie here
Is this possible and if so how
1) Can you limit which devices respond to all-off and all-on command on a remotelinc and or a keypad linc
2) Can the all-on and all-off command on the remote link be changed to a desired ramp rate rather than fast on fast off
Thanks
Ron
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for both, (and this would involve more than what I'm saying here), it is possible. I never use the insteon default 255 group (which is the all devices group). I created my own because I wanted a group of JUST LIGHTS and wanted them to fade out, like you are asking about in question 2. You should be able to create a trigger of some sort to catch the all off button (should be a group 255 fast off or fast on) and basically reroute it. At least that's how it should work.
KeypadLincs don't have an all off/all on button unless you create one. ControlLincs do (the big desktop devices). HOwever, this all off/all on is a mis-nomer as it only controls all devices linked to the controller, not all devices in the house. I'm not sure, but would expect the all off/on buttons on the remotelinc to behave the same way, only controlling the devices linked to it, not every device on the network.
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Ron,
1. No...the All On and All Off in Insteon is using a special group number of 255. This will send a broadcast command to group 255 and ANY device linked to the controller (any button) will respond to the command. If a device isnt linked to the controller (the device sending the all on/off), then the device won't respond. RemoteLincs and ControLincs have All on/off (as well as PLC by sending to group 255) but KPL's do not.
2. No...Insteon is setup to only respond to all on/off with fast on and fast off commands. Presumably, since a device may have multiple links from the same controller with varying ramprates and levels, Insteon wouldnt know which one to use so you only get the fast on/off.
Of course, the above only applies to a pure Insteon solution. As Cicero suggested, you could use PowerHome and triggers to achieve most any desired effect.
Dave.
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