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Posted: July 14 2013 at 18:20 | IP Logged Quote smarty
Just bought a few more (2) SwitchLinc Dimmers (2447D). I have
several of these dual band dimmers already installed through out the
house. I thought adding these would be just like the others.

Well... I wired in the switch. It dims and functions as you would expect
when controlled locally.

I added the new Insteon device to PH, but not matter what I try, PH
does not "see" the device.

I first added the new switch to the Insteon Device table. I choose the
2477D device type, picked the I2CS engine etc (all the things I did for
my other working 2477D dimmers.

I then cleared the PLM and did an "add full".

No luck...

For what it is worth, the tag on the switch says "P2477D", Rev 7.05,
1613. The switch address is 22.34.AE


I am wondering if SmartHome upgraded their firmware in some manner
that now prevents PH from interacting with it as it was able to with prior
switches????

FYI...I believe I have added the I2CS patches that have been
mentioned within the last couple of months....

Edited by smarty - July 17 2013 at 15:39

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Posted: July 14 2013 at 20:22 | IP Logged Quote grif091
Turn On the Insteon Raw Log.   Disable all the current devices so the only device PH will be working with is the new one.   Add the new device, Save the definition.   Be sure Enable Pending and Status Scan are checked as those options are needed to complete an I2CS device add.   Post the Raw Log after PH has gone through any pending operations and a status scan.

Dimmers were the last types that were updated with I2CS firmware but the SwitchLinc Dimmer has been I2CS for a long time. I don't know of any Dimmer firmware change that would prevent PH from handling it. Are there other devices on the same breaker that are working?


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Posted: July 14 2013 at 21:23 | IP Logged Quote smarty
From the log... (below):

Also, there indeed are other insteon devices on the this breaker circuit.



2013-07-14 21:19:14.539     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:19:14.563     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:19:14.756     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:19:14.799     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:19:24.894     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:19:24.919     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:19:25.107     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:19:25.151     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:19:35.258     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:19:35.283     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:19:35.476     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:19:35.519     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:19:45.631     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:19:45.656     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:19:45.851     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:19:45.895     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:19:56.005     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:19:56.029     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:19:56.217     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:19:56.262     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:20:06.379     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:20:06.404     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:20:06.592     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:20:06.636     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:20:16.744     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:20:16.768     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:20:16.960     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:20:17.003     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:20:27.100     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:20:27.124     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:20:27.319     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:20:27.364     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:20:37.470     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:20:37.495     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:20:37.686     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:20:37.729     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:20:47.830     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:20:47.855     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:20:48.047     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:20:48.089     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:20:59.214     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:20:59.238     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:20:59.433     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:20:59.477     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:21:09.577     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:21:09.601     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:21:09.796     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:21:09.839     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:21:19.940     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:21:19.965     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:21:20.156     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:21:20.200     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE
2013-07-14 21:21:30.293     TX  &nbs p;  02 62 22 34 AE 05 28 0F
2013-07-14 21:21:30.317     RX  &nbs p;  SENTINSTEON=13 1F 5D 22 34 AE 05 28 0F 06
2013-07-14 21:21:30.506     RX  &nbs p;  RECEIVEINSTEONRAW=22 34 AE 13 1F 5D A1 28 FF
2013-07-14 21:21:30.550     RX  &nbs p;  INSTEON NAK=22 34 AE





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Posted: July 14 2013 at 21:47 | IP Logged Quote BeachBum
You may not be the only one. This entry sound similar.

http://www.promixis.com/forums/showthread.php?18641-Insteon- PLM-Component/page138


Go to the bottom dated May 16th.

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Posted: July 14 2013 at 23:26 | IP Logged Quote grif091
Powerhome does not understand this is an I2CS device. It is issuing a Set MSB command that does not exist in I2CS devices. Perhaps PH has to be reinited for it to recognize the I2CS Engine definition.

Perhaps PH is not at 2.1.4 or the I2CS ZIP files were not copied to the correct subdirectory.

Sorry for the slow response. The PH forum takes days to send an email about new posts.

Edited by grif091 - July 14 2013 at 23:29

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Lee, you might look into your end with the email as I'm getting mine within the minute of your post.

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Posted: July 15 2013 at 11:34 | IP Logged Quote grif091
Thanks Pete. I'll look into it.   Perhaps CenturyLink does not like the source of PH email. I get email from the ISY and Smarthome forums but the PH emails come in clusters after several days.   Think I will call CenturyLink and see what they say. .

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Posted: July 17 2013 at 15:37 | IP Logged Quote smarty
OK, I copied the two I2CS files into the C:\powerhome directory (I am
pretty sure I had down this before - but I did have a hard drive fail that
cause me to rebuild many things including my PH setup).

After a cold start, everything worked as it should and the I2CS switch
was seen and able to be controlled and linked to.

Thanks Lee and Pete!

Edited by smarty - July 17 2013 at 15:37

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Off topic, but Lee I noticed you have an ISY controller...I have a PLM ...
Wondering what your thoughts were on the two ( or the one)...?

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Posted: July 27 2013 at 22:51 | IP Logged Quote grif091
I use a PLM with Powerhome. The ISY does not have a port that allows direct PLM access like the SmartLinc and the new HUB.   I moved the house and test bed devices to ISYs some time ago as it was the only way to manage the new devices. I don’t think Smarthome is shipping anything but devices with I2CS firmware.    SmartLabs dropped Peek/Poke commands completely in I2CS so the only way to configure the new devices is with extended commands.   If you are looking for an alternative I would highly recommend the ISY.    .

Edited by grif091 - July 27 2013 at 22:53

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