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Posted: July 04 2006 at 10:15 | IP Logged Quote krommetje

Hello all,

who has Powerhome (the newest version) running in Windows 2003 server enterprise edition? I just got hold of a free Legal W2003 server ent. ed. with serialnumber and I am tempted to install it, but would like to know first if PH runs....

Peter
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Posted: July 04 2006 at 11:00 | IP Logged Quote TonyNo

This was the latest thread on the subject.
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Posted: July 04 2006 at 11:11 | IP Logged Quote krommetje

Yes I already read it TonyNo, but since there has already been a new version, things might have changed...

I sent a private mail to Dave but since he's not responding... I was hoping that someone installed version 47 in 2003 server Ent. Edit.

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Posted: July 11 2006 at 00:12 | IP Logged Quote dhoward

Peter,

Should work without incident. Earlier problems were a result of the setup including MDAC which has now been dropped from the install routine.

However, I don't know of anybody specifically using this version of Windows with PowerHome but there should be nothing unique about the OS that would keep it from working.

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Posted: July 11 2006 at 09:36 | IP Logged Quote krommetje

It'll take at least 2 hours to install 2003server with tuning and stuff, so I'd have to do this when I've got the afternoon or day off (not until sunday ) and I have to make time for my family as well... the next Beta won't come until the beginning of august if I am correct so I have a lot of time...

I will keep you posted in this thread how this continues...

Peter
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Posted: July 12 2006 at 00:29 | IP Logged Quote Dean

I've been running under Windows 2003 Enterprise Server for quite some time now. Other than the MDAC problem Dave mentioned, I haven't had any problems. Dave created a build for me without MDAC at the time and it installed without a hitch.

PowerHome running on Windows 2003 Enterprise

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Posted: July 18 2006 at 03:37 | IP Logged Quote krommetje

Thanx for the Pic Dean... As soon as I can find the time to install 2003 server, I am going to...

do you have any good advice when installing 2003 server?
and when installing PH?

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Posted: July 20 2006 at 07:59 | IP Logged Quote Dean

krommetje wrote:

do you have any good advice when installing 2003 server?
and when installing PH?


Peter,

I didn't do anything special with the 2003 install. No optimizations were made. Primary function is a file and print server. Other than PowerHome, it runs backup software and has a tape drive connected to it. It also runs a web and ftp server. It is running on a Pentium III 866 with 512MB memory, performance for what I use it for is fine.

My only suggestion is to install a VNC server on the box. Microsoft Terminal Server doesn't work well with PowerHome because PowerHome must be run after a user logs in. If PowerHome ever becomes a Windows service that can run when the server boots with the GUI a separate executable (I think I may have heard Dave say this was on his list) then Terminal Server/Remote Desktop should be OK. If security isn't much of a concern, you might want to tweak the box to automatically log in a user and execute PowerHome. So if the box reboots, PowerHome will start automatically.

Other than the Insteon problems that many people seem to have, PowerHome has been very stable. Windows 2003 has also been very stable, although lately I have been having lockup problems of the entire OS/machine, but I believe these are due to some hardware/memory problem, nothing to do with PowerHome or Windows 2003. I have been running Windows 2003 on this box for more than a year and Windows 2000 on the box before that with no problems. I usually only have to reboot it due to some patches that were installed via Windows Update.

I really don't think you will have any problems with PowerHome under Windows 2003. Good luck.

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Posted: July 20 2006 at 08:13 | IP Logged Quote cmhardwick

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If security isn't much of a concern, you might want to tweak the box to automatically log in a user and execute PowerHome. So if the box reboots, PowerHome will start automatically.

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PowerHome won't come up automatically in it's current configuration because of the 2 event timer related questions at startup. I wish these could be bypassed in a config or something so that your scenario would be feasible. In that case, I'd move powerhome to my second box that I use for file serving and a local (in house/development) webserver that does autologon.

Still learning and loving PH so far!

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Posted: July 20 2006 at 08:43 | IP Logged Quote dhoward

Peter,

Your wish has already been granted .

In the PowerHome Explorer under Setup|Preferences, make sure the "Quiet Start" box is checked. Reinitialize and you won't be presented with the two timed event startup windows.

HTH,

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Posted: July 20 2006 at 10:50 | IP Logged Quote cmhardwick

woohoo! hehehe now THAT'S what I call service!

I'm assuming in this case that it starts the timed events, but what does it do with missed timed events?

Thanks again!

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Posted: July 21 2006 at 07:48 | IP Logged Quote krommetje

2003 server up and running, No incom. Comm. Possible so we can rule out Windows being in error.... It has to be the hardware... For the time being no PH running here sorry guys.. I give up
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Posted: July 27 2006 at 01:01 | IP Logged Quote dhoward

The quiet start just bypasses showing the two windows at startup. The defaults will instead be chosen. If you've got "Activate Timed Events at Startup" checked, then timed events will start as the default. If you've got "Execute Past Timed Events at Startup" checked, then past due events will all be executed until they are caught up to the current time. What this means is that a timed event that is scheduled to run every minute and is 60 minutes past due, then the timed event will be executed 60 times.

Soo, if the "Activate" and "Execute" timed event options are checked, then Timed events will be turned on and past due events executed automatically without window confirmation if "Quiet Start" is checked.

If "Execute" is not checked, what happens instead is that the timed event is calculated and brought up to date to the current time without executing it's action. So in our sample once a minute timed event thats 60 minutes past due, the timed event will be brought up to date and it's action will be executed 1 minute after startup.

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Posted: July 27 2006 at 01:05 | IP Logged Quote dhoward

Peter,

Are your COM ports on the motherboard or an expansion card? If I remember correctly, this was all working properly and then one day it just stopped. I know you've tried a different CM11A and that it works on the notebook, just not this machine. Have you considered a cheap USB to serial adaptor? I picked one up for $20.00 the other day and it seems to work well. Might be an option to try.

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Posted: July 27 2006 at 07:38 | IP Logged Quote krommetje

The comports are on the board itself. After I installed W2003-server and it did not function, I gave up and moved my mail/news server to the PC which was at first running PH and the Gameporttemp, so my Mail/News-server is running under w2003-server now as well as gameporttemp.exe. (I am now very pleased with the fact I did this since my mail/news is running more stable and faster)

The original laptop, I have 3 in fact, 1 running a webserver, the other which is running my Mail/News-server) was left off for the last few days until I came onto the idea that this laptop HAS indeed got a serial-port. So I moved PH to this laptop and tried... I had to make a few adjustsments since the temparures are running on a different machine.... (the mailserver in fact) do you follow so far???

The situation now:
W2003-server: running mail/news and gameporttemp
laptop: running PH

The laptop is located at the third floor of my home, so X10 is not received at base-level when sent from PH but certain X10 is received by PH when sent from base-level (which is on the same powerline I presume.) Sending X10 from PH is OK...

The next day off I am going to take the laptop and move it temporarily to the base-level and connect it to the same outlet in my old situation (in the fusebox). If there isn't any comm. possible, then there is noise on the Powerline which is also located in the fusebox.

There are several devices in the Fusebox:

An anti-chalk device for neutralising chalk in the water-pipes, A Cable Modem, a WiFi-AP connected to an outside antenna, a emergency light, a UPS for supplying current when there is a powerfailure so the cable-internet and my Phone keeps working...

be aware: X10 always worked even with all devices ON!!

I am going to take all devices in turn off the Powerline and test if X10 IS possible....

Some small info:

the old CM11a is not toast, it works on the laptop... The USB-solution is something to think about when all else fails...

Peter

p.s. leaves one laptop unaccounted for:
This one I am posting from to this board...

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Posted: July 29 2006 at 02:17 | IP Logged Quote krommetje

Powerhome Up and Running on my old mail/news-server
Config:

PII-300mHz on WinME Laptop (liteOn)
192mB Memory, 4 gB HD, PCMCIA-network-card....

My Sun-Sttings were gone so I had to find new values, that took about a couple of hours and the Webserver was disabled. Gameportemp is also running but now runs on the Main Networkserver (W2003 server) so PH polls its webserver every 5 mins.

I switched off the WiFi Accesspoint (switched to a backup on the third floor) and the anti-chalk device... X10 sending and receiving now works as usual... One of these devices was causing noise BUT the ports on the old PH-server (now the main networkserver) IS/ARE in fact toast so there were more things causing my breakdown of X10...

Peter


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