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lucas
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hello. I have what I believe to be a pretty basic programming need that I cannot figure out how to accomplish. I want the bottom "off" push of a dimmer or the bottom button push of a KP to turn off the load on that device AND turn off a scene of other lights. I want the on push to only turn the direct load of the device on. I have read about creating links between buttons of KPs and intra-linking the leds of the buttons. I have gotten the LEDs of a KP to act a bit the way I would like but I see no way of linking one button of a KP to another to control load "1" - I have never even read any reference to programming a dimmer (not KP) the way I would like. THANK YOU for any/all help
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There are some games that can be played using the Bright level of responders linked to the dimmer. When the On paddle is pressed the Bright level in the responders linked to the switch are set so low as to look Off, even though they are On at a very dim level. This works with some responder loads and some not. Also if some of the other lights were already On, they look like they were turned Off. The Off paddle press turns all the responders linked to the dimmer Off. The advantage to this approach is it is all hardware.
Rather than that approach I would suggest defining a PowerHome Trigger which fires only with an Off from the dimmer. The Trigger invokes a Macro which turns Off whatever device(s) you want turned Off. The device(s) can be turned off individually with Direct commands or a PLC/PLM Group can be defined containing the devices to be turned off. Then a single Group Off is issued. This requires PH to be running for this action to occur. No links from the dimmer switch are used.
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thank you, seems like there should be a simpler way but good to know at least one wat to do it.
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You cannot apply a top paddle press to one group of devices and apply a bottom paddle press to a different group of devices. A SwitchLinc, ICON switch, etc, all those in that family of devices has a single Group number, 1, associated with the paddle operation. Pressing the top of the paddle results in an ON command being sent to devices associated with Group 1, pressing the bottom of the paddle results in an OFF command being sent to the same set of devices associated with Group 1.
The same thing applies to a KPL in six button mode where the ON and OFF buttons are the larger buttons that span the width of two small buttons. The large top button sends an ON for Group 1 and the large bottom button sends an OFF for Group 1. There are four other small buttons available on a KPL in 6 button mode any one of which can be set up to operate in one of two non toggle modes. By default each small button operates in toggle mode. Press once and an ON command is sent for the Group number associated with the button. Press the same button again and an OFF command is sent for the same Group number. A small button can be configured to operate in non toggle ON mode or non toggle OFF mode. The non toggle OFF mode may be of some use to you. In this mode an OFF command is sent each time the button is pressed. It could be used to turn off the group of devices you want turned off by a button press. There are new features available with the later KPLs that may allow one of the small buttons to also be tied to the KPL load allowing that same button operating in non toggle OFF mode to also turn off the load. I don't have any of the new KPLs to be able to verify that it can be done. Perhaps someone with experience with the new KPLs will know if this can be done.
For sure that capability does not exist for SwitchLinc paddle type devices.
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The request is simple enough but Lee is right the device is treated as a group so anything pressed comes from the same group and can not be differentiated. The simplest solution is to be PH device triggered, as Lee suggested, and then the results are endless.
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