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jonkjon
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I have read a lot about controlling syncing keypadlinc
buttons but just can't get it to work.
I have tried the following:
1. Added the plm as a controller to the keypadlinc with a
unique group number (203) and assigned button 3.
2. Created a plm group named BARN_LGHTS and gave it the
same number I used for the plm as a controller (203)
3. Created a group macro to turn on BARN_LIGHTS group.
After doing this, i run the macro and the barn lights
come on but nothing happens at the keypadlinc.
If I control the barn lights at the switch, the
keypadlinc works fine as I have cross linked them
manually at the switches. The lights at the barn also
work when controlling from the keypadlinc and i get a
response in ph at the switch as expected.
I am sure I am overlooking something simple...
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I think I got this....
I simply had to add the plm as a responder to the
keypadlinc for each of the buttons with the new plm group
number under the appropriate button (group) number.
Edited by jonkjon - November 17 2013 at 17:44
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I had to replace the barn lights switch. I believe the new
switch is an I2CS type. The switch links up fine with the
plm and the keypadlinc but, the button on the keypadlinc no
longer lights up when the macro runs. Is there something
else I need to change?
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jonkjon,
Not sure how you replaced the barn lights switch but what should have worked is entering the new device's address into the "Replace Address" column for the old barn lights switch in the Devices tab of Insteon Explorer. PowerHome should have rebuilt all the links and made the new barn switch appear just like the old one just with a different address.
If this is not how you did or its not working, first check to make sure that the barn lights device isnt flagged as disabled or COMM disabled in the Devices tab. Next verify that you've got a responder link to the PLM and a controller link from the PLM (on the group you like to control both the KPL button and the barn switch). Also make sure that you've got a Controller link from the KPL and a responder link to the KPL and that the KPL also has a controller and responder link to the PLM (essentially all 3 devices will have two controller links, one to each other device, and two responder links, one to each other device).
Hope this helps,
Dave.
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Dave,
Thanks for the reply. I did indeed use the "Replace
Address" method for changing out the switch. It appears,
however, that the device that was replaced is hanging
things up as I see a lot of "flagged delete" messages in
the links tab for the plm controller among others. I also
now have a lot of link not found messages dispersed
throughout. I tried reinitializing but that hasn't helped.
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jonkjon,
Verify that the "Disabled" column isnt checked for any of the devices in the Devices tab of the Insteon Explorer.
Next check for any colored background (other than the default 2 shades of blue) in the "Clear Failed" column for any of the devices. A colored background means the device has been flagged as COMM failed. Place a check in this column for any COMM failed devices and Save the changes.
Any of these cases will keep links from being created or deleted.
Dave.
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I manually deleted the links that were showing as flagged
delete and that seems to have things moving again. I had
quite a few "link not found" messages and so I
manually removed and re-added them all back in and now they
all show verified under "ctrlr link status" and "resp link
status" for all of the responders and
controllers. The macro still isn't turning the kpl light on
as it was. 
EDIT: I have verified that none of the devices are disabled
as well as checked the clear failed items.
Edited by jonkjon - November 08 2014 at 22:08
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Now, only moments later, I have an "link not found" under
"ctrlr link status" for the kpl as a controller (group 3)
of the barn lights switch.
The plm controller (group 203) as a controller of the barn
lights switch shows verified under both statuses.
Maybe my keypadlinc is dying.....
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My next step in troubleshooting would be to open the PowerHome Multi-Editor and go to PH Formula mode (shift-F6). Run the following formula:
ph_insteongroupcu("BARN_LIGHTS","YOUR KPL ID",ion)
You'll need to change the "YOUR KPL ID" to the ID of your KPL as I didnt see it anywhere. Have the Insteon Explorer window open and monitor the Insteon traffic. Also review the eventlog to see the messages and any ACK/NAK's that come through.
What I suspect may be the problem are communication issues. A group broadcast command is not acknowledged so you basically just hope its heard. The group cleanup command above though is an acknowledged command so should be able to make it through. If the message is ACKed and the KPL responds as you expect, then your links are ok and you've most likely got comm issues (I would check the Insteon reports to see if any problems can be identified). If the KPL does not respond or the message is not ACKed then the link is probably not correct. I would go to the "Links" tab of the Insteon Explorer, make the KPL the current device and then click the "Rebuild" text to have the links in the KPL rebuilt (make sure that what appears in the controller and responder links for the KPL is what you want).
Dave.
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Dave,
Here is the result of the formula - ph_insteongroupcu("BARN_LIGHTS","HALLWAY",ion)
Insteon Out INSTEON PLM Controller INSTEON transmission of Address:[07.E9.23] Flags:[69] Cmd1:[17] Cmd2:[203]. Decode: Group Cleanup. ID: HALLWAY Group: 203, On
Incoming Insteon received on INSTEON PLM controller INSTEON. From Address:[07.E9.23] To Address:[1E.4E.CA] Flags:[225] Cmd1:[17] Cmd2:[255]. Decode: NAK of Group Cleanup. From: HALLWAY To: PLMCTLR Group: 255, On
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jonkjon,
The return command is a NAK of the group cleanup so I suspect the link in the KPL is the issue. I would make the KPL the current device in the Links screen, make sure that the controller and responder links look as they should and then do a Rebuild. Afterwards, try the ph_insteongroupcu command again.
Dave.
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Dave,
Rebuilding the links seems to have done the trick. Thanks a million!!! I'm still not sure what
was missing as the links screen still looks the same to me for the keypadlinc. I do
have trouble figuring out what some of the button/group numbers mean so something there probably
changed and I'm just not noticing it. For instance, the BRNLGHTS switch is a
responder of the HALLWAY(kpl) under group 3 (which I understand as the button 3 of HALLWAY), and
under responder buttons -1,0, 203 (which I don't fully understand). The button
numbers under responders seem to be group numbers but I don't know what group -1 would be. I
would assume, perhaps, group 0 is default for responder devices?
Yikes, I have a lot to learn! Thanks again......
Edit: OK, I refined my search and found your explanation of the -1 button number. It's a
transition or placeholder number depending on whether controller or responder is found first and
should go away eventually......
--Jon
Edited by jonkjon - November 09 2014 at 18:07
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