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adoute
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I have a keypadlinc in 6 button configuration. Buttons 1-2 (large ON) and 7-8 (large OFF) control a local load.
Button 3 is set to control a lamplinc module, and button 4 is set to control another lamplinc module - both in 'toggle' mode (pressing the button once turns the remote lamplinc on, pressing it again turns it off). I can control both lamplinc using their respective keypadlinc buttons without any problem.
I would like to get the leds on the keypadlinc to reflect the current state of the lamplincs that they control - if a timed event turns one of the lamplincs on, I would like the corresponding button on the keypadlinc to light up. Is this possible? If so, how do I go about configuring it?
Thanks for any help you may be able to offer -
Allan
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Allan,
The best way to set this up would be to create a group for each lamplinc with the PLC as the controller. In the group, set the lamplinc and the KPL button as responders. In your timed event, instead of turning the lamplinc on or off, turn the new PLC group on or off. This will keep the lamplinc and the LED on the KPL button synchronized.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm pretty sure I've got it - with a couple exceptions...
How do I set a specific button on the KPL as a responder?
Also, in a macro, how would I send a group command?
Thanks -
Allan
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In the responders list of the Create/Edit/Clone window, scroll all the way to the right. You'll see a Button column which will be enabled if the responder is a KPL.
In a macro, just use the "Insteon Raw Group" command. Pick the ID of the controller, the group number you set up and the command you wish to send.
HTH,
Dave.
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Thanks again - the level of support you provide is simply amazing.
I'll see if I cna make this all work sometime this weekend.
Allan
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Let me know if you encounter any problems.
Dave.
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You know I will.
Thanks again.
Allan
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Thanks for the help - my KPL buttons now reflect the state of the lamplincs they control. Not a really big deal, but I wanted things to be right...
I did run into some strange issues while setting it up, tho - I simply couldn't get one of the groups I created to function properly. I recreated the group using a new number (all the details were kept the same), and it worked using the new group number. I simply deleted the group that didn't work, and now everything is working fine - except for the hole in the database where there is a group missing.
Thanks again for your help -
Allan
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Allan,
Glad the KPL is working for you.
I don't understand what would happen with the groups though. Could you provide me some more details? What device was the group controller? Was it the PLC or the KPL? What group number were you using and what group did you end up using? What devices were the responders?
Let me know and there might be a logical explanation (I sound like the X-Files  .
Dave.
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The Controller Group that wouldn't work had the following details:
- Controller: PowerLinc
- Group Number: 3
- Responder: LampLinc
- Responder: KPL button 3
The issue I was having with that group was that the lamplinc would not respond to commands. The KPL button would, however.
I re-created the group the exact same way, this time as Group 4. Both the lamplinc AND KPL button 3 respond properly. Once I was satisfied that group 4 was working the way I expected it to, I deleted Group 3.
For reference, Group 2 is similar to Group 4, details:
- Controller: PowerLinc
- Group Number: 2
- Responder: LampLinc
- Responder: KPL button 4
Group 2 worked fine the first time it was set up. The PLC's Group 1 has the rest of my Insteon devices in it, and is not currently used for anything programmatically. For reference, Group 1 is as follows:
- Controller: PowerLinc
- Group Number: 1
- Responder: Switchlinc
- Responder: Switchlinc
- Responder: KPL button 1
Let me know if any other info would be helpful and I'll provide as much of it as I can.
Allan
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I had similiar problems setting up a ControLinc. Tne groups were verified as being there but the ControLinc buttons simply would not operate the switches they were linked to. Even more confusing was that the switches reponded to a press of All On or All Off so I know the links were there. I created the links again using the tap-tap method and everything worked fine. It must have just overwritten the existing rcords in the controller because no new records were discovered by PowerHome after I made the manual entries.
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I should probably add that all the groups were created with PowerHome, not manaully with the devices. Also, all testing was done AFTER all the links status changed to VERIFIED.
Allan
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I also created my groups with PowerHome and they all showed as verified. They just didn't work. I then created them again manually (without deleting the old ones) and they started working.
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Mike,
The problem with the ControLinc should be fixed now in version 1.03.4.7. There were extra bytes to poke pertaining to ControLinc's only that were not done in previous versions.
Essentially, these extra bytes are the number of links per button. In a fresh ControLinc, these values are set to 0. Previous versions of PowerHome would create the links, but would not change these values from 0. When you press a button, if the value is 0, it doesnt send a command (it see's 0 links attached to button so doesnt think it needs to send). However, the all on/all off would still send because this uses group 255 and is independent of the number of links per button.
When you recreated the links using the tap-tap method, the links didnt actually change so everything looked the same in PowerHome, but the link count locations were updated. So when pressing a button, it will now send the commands (count > 0).
Anyways, this should now be fixed in version 1.03.4.7. If it is still not working, then let me know and I'll look into what may be wrong.
Dave.
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Allan,
Everything sounds like it was done right. My guess is that if you went and re-created the group 3, it would now work right. My guess is that you may have been a victim of the link problem that Im working to fix right now. The link record in the lamplinc may have been improperly written and would therefore not work. However, PowerHome would be unaware of this and would think the link was written correctly and show everything as verified.
In any event, Ive located the source of the link prolem and hope to have a fix out tonight. The problem is random and sporadic so if you were to try the same link again, chances are it will work.
I'll post a message to the board when Ive got the patch available.
Dave.
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I'm almost afraid of changing anything right now - remember my stability issues with the last beta? Currently, PowerHome says:
PowerHome Uptime: 9 days 8 hours 55 minutes 27 seconds
Everything is working just fine - I think I might just leave it well enough alone for now. 
Thanks again for all your help -
Allan
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