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thought I'd collect these in one place...
1) Is there any way to get the Event log as a text file so I can excerpt it or search it? What I'd really like to do is to see say, only the X10 status request messages, or only the messages affecting a particular X10 or INSTEON device, etc. Not sure how to do this with the existing interface since these are differentiated only in the details field.
2) Should the Timer App exit when Powerhome exits? Mine doesn't. This is a problem also because it impedes a normal shutdown until I exit it manually.
3) Almost every time i come to this forum I have to log back in. I didn't see anything about this in settings. Is there a way to stay logged in all the time.
4) Is the user manual current w.r.t. the Control Center? I don't seem to be able to to get to the design view (right-click does nothing).
5) Is there a way in Control Center to display the current status of a device, or at least of a global variable?
6) The BOOLEAN column in the Triggers list - can I drop a global variable here to conditionally enable/disable a trigger? If so, this would be a great addition to Timed Events 8-}
BTW: you guys are awesome, I'm learning a lot - also looking forward to Dave's response to my initial thread "Questions about Powerhome Setup".
/j
Edited by jeffw_00 - November 23 2007 at 01:02
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3) no :) Just save the password (if you're using Internet Explorer) and then you just have to double-click the user-id box and select your name and click logon. Not a really big deal, though I've seen others ask about it as well.
6) don't see why it wouldn't work. say global variable was "VACATION" and YES meant you weren't home and you should execute this trigger ... boolean would be {VACATION}="YES" (think I got the braces/brackets right. I don't use many in my stuff, and they've been in place for a LONG time hehehe)
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1)With the Event Log open go to File - Export.
4)Yes, right clicking on a Control Center tab should bring up a floating menu. Design view is on of the options. However, you may have to go to Control Center in PH Explorer first to creat a Tab (don't remeber for sure).
5)Yes. Do it programaticly. Trigger off of a device or GV change and use the ph_setcc... functions in a Raw Formula to manipulate CC objects.
6) Yes. I use if("{your_global}"="your_test_arg",1,0) which returns 1 if true, 0 if not.
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1) Export log - thanks!
2) ???
3) Now allowing all cookies from this site, will see if it helps.
4) Right-clicking every place I can try in my Control Center (see below) doesn't seem to do anything.
5) jbbtex, I don't quite understand your response. What I want to do is add an "status light" of some sort to the CC to 'see' the current setting of a global variable. What I'm hung up on is that it's not obvious how to add an "indicator" as opposed to a 'button'.
6) I figured that would work. Thanks!
Your guys are great!
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Jeff,
On 5) check this thread. Dave explains it much better than I can.
On 4), are you opening Control Center in PH Explorer or are you opening CC from the menu bar item - Control, Control Center (Alt-F1
Edited by jbbtex - November 23 2007 at 15:48
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4) using the button in the toolbar
5) looks like i need to learn about ph_setccobjbcolor
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Jeff,
1) As Brady pointed out, you can use the Export menu option which allow text, CSV, Excel, etc. or you can use the ph_exporteventlog function to do it programmatically.
2) The SDM will not exit automatically when PowerHome exits. We've tried numerous ways of launching and using the SDM in order to achieve maximum reliability and only with the latest .12 do we seem to have reached out goal (most users will attest to this  ). Since multiple applications may use the SDM simultaneously, PowerHome does not attempt to automatically shutdown the SDM (there is no way to tell if other apps are connected to the SDM).
Concerning shutdown, I know exactly of what you speak. My solution has been to shutdown either manually or automatically by creating a .BAT file that calls the shutdown command with the -f parameter. My shutdown command line looks like this:
shutdown -f -r -t 10
3) Enabling cookies should take care of it. If it doesnt though, Im not sure how to fix it. It may be possible that you've got some software that automatically clears your cookies for you.
4) User Manual is not current for the Control Center  . With the Control Center open (client version, not the Remtoe CC), you can right-click on the client area of the CC and select Design or Open Design View from the popup menu. From within PowerHome Explorer, go to the CC Tabs screen, right-click on a CC tab line and select Design (or Open Design View) from the pop-up menu.
5) It can be done. The next beta will have the ability to automatically display global vars and Im also shooting for status of devices as well. In the meantime, look at the ph_setccobj??? functions to change the text, color, etc. You'll usually want to do this in a trigger such as "Global Variable" to automatically update when the GV changes.
6) Yes, you can place a global variable in the BOOLEAN column of the Triggers screen. If the BOOLEAN field evaluates to 0 or FALSE (such as 1 = 0) then the trigger will not be performed. ANY other value and the trigger will be fired. Sharby has already thought of this for the Timed Events and this will be available in the next beta.
HTH,
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1) yup, got it - thanks
2) I'm cool, but thanks for the confirmation. My unattended shutdowns use -f so I'm covered. I don't mind exiting it manually if I know that's how it works. I was surprised, though, because HouselincDesktop causes the TimerApp to exit when it exits, wonder how they do that? (Or are you saying you don't WANT to do that because people may have other apps running and you can't tell? - maybe an option in a future release?)
3)Didn't seem to help, but from what I read I'm not the only one. Don't sweat it.
4) Yeah - i finally figured out I need to right-click ON A BUTTON to get the Design View. Don't worry about the manual, support here is really good 8-]!
5) I figured it out. ph_setccobjfcolor does it for me 8-}
6) Cool!
Thanks
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Jeff,
Concerning the SDM, there are a couple of different ways of launching it. The way PowerHome used to do it was by having it auto-instantiated (launched) by just opening the activeX interface to the SDM (almost certainly the way HouseLinc does it). When PowerHome used this method, the SDM would automatically shutdown when PowerHome exited (or the last connected application disconnected). This was all controlled by the SDM. However, this seemed to produce reliability problems with the SDM being launched in this manner not to mention problems with people having multiple versions of the SDM on their machine from multiple software. After many hours of testing, the most reliable results seem to be achieved by launching the SDM manually as an executable *before* attempting to connect via activeX interface. When the SDM is launched in this fashion, it won't automatically shutdown (the shutdown is actually controlled by the SDM itself) when the activeX connection is terminated because the SDM wasnt launched that way.
I could possibly add an option to have PowerHome manually terminate the SDM when PowerHome disconnects.
Dave.
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Dave, on my system, the SDM still exits automatically a few seconds after PH. However, I don't launch the SDM manually, I let it get launched by PH. I have absolutely no problems since .12
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Dave - the problem really rests in the SDM, in that a regular shutdown won't kill it. Bad design on their part, not your problem. The option you mention couldn't hurt, in the hope that when a shutdown killed PH, PH would then kill the SDM. But it's a nit at best.
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