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bhlonewolf Senior Member
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:40 | IP Logged
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Dave,
AFAIK I may be the only one who wants this, but ...
Would it be feasible to allow foldering or other grouping of timed events and triggers? After about 15 or either, it starts to get hard to sort through. Case in point: I have a ton of timed events that only occur when I'm "away" -- it would be great to file 'em all in a folder or such.
Thx!
Brian
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TonyNo Moderator Group
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 22:28 | IP Logged
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Hmm. Maybe sort on Boolean field?
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dhoward Admin Group
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 22:30 | IP Logged
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Brian,
Heh, you're not the first. This has actually become a fairly popular request as of late. Not just for Timed Events and Triggers, but for Macros and other screens as well.
Since it has become popular, Ive been trying to think of a good way to implement this without having to make massive database changes.
Now the first way most people may think of doing this (especially in terms of a SQL database) would be to add an extra column to all tables to hold a new value representing what group the data belongs to. These are the massive database changes that Im tyring to avoid. It also means that each trigger, timed event, etc. can ONLY belong to 1 group.
Ive been toying with another idea. Creating a separate table that holds group information. Basically it would be a many to one type of relationship that allows you to put the same Trigger ID, timed event, macro into multiple group ID's. Then, when you open the PowerHome Explorer, a new little selection window would allow the user to select the current group to view, including ALL Groups, and unassigned groups. I think I can accomplish this fairly easily using database filtering rules. With this approach, you would have a separate "Group" creation screen that would show a list of *ALL* trigger id's, timed events, macros, globals, etc. that you would then just highlight and drag and drop to the group ID.
Let me know how this sounds for everyone and I'll try to start working on this.
Thanks,
Dave.
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cmhardwick Senior Member
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 22:34 | IP Logged
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That sounds great. That way, it's more of just a "display" or "view" option, not in the actual databases. It could also allow (depending on how you did it) for grouping of Trigger, Timed and Macros in to the SAME groups so if you had a set of triggers and macros say that were for your ELK, you could have an ELK group that would have both in there.
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TonyNo Moderator Group
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Posted: November 29 2007 at 22:35 | IP Logged
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I think I like it.
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jeffw_00 Super User
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Posted: November 30 2007 at 10:11 | IP Logged
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the thing I like about it is that I think you're saying you can mix macros, timed events, and triggers in the same group, AND get to the actual item by clicking through the group view.
That would work great for me. Though some people might complain that it adds a step to creating a macro/event/trigger (adding it to the group). Admittedly if the groups were built into the category listing, the group selection would be implicit. But personally, I think it's better to have a way to group items from different categories together.
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BeachBum Super User
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Posted: November 30 2007 at 10:19 | IP Logged
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Got my vote.... I definitely have a need. Good suggestion.
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bhlonewolf Senior Member
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Posted: November 30 2007 at 10:24 | IP Logged
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Dave -- I like it!
Your idea is certainly the more thorough and in the end, seems like the correct way to do it. I'm sure it's easier said than done to implement but at the same time would be a huge benefit to organizing these things! Thanks!
Brian
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cmhardwick Senior Member
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Posted: November 30 2007 at 21:35 | IP Logged
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jeffw_00, I don't think it would be or rather, SHOULD be, a requirement to navigate through the group level to get to the macros, etc. I think that should be ONE way to go, if you want to group items but you should still have the traditional direct access like now.
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jeffw_00 Super User
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Posted: November 30 2007 at 21:49 | IP Logged
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cmhardwick - you misunderstood me. I don't disagree w/you.
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