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logbuilder Newbie
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 23:12 | IP Logged
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This is a new install.
I got my PLM installed and it is seen in explorer/devices. I installed an appliance controller and it is seen in explorer/devices. I can turn the appliance controller on/off just fine.
The controller and the appliance switch are on the same 110 leg out of the breaker.
Now I am trying to install 2 access points so that I can bridge the 110 legs.
I installed the access points on each of the 110 legs. The instructions with the access points say to press SET 4 times rapidly and the light will stay steady on. That works. It says to go to the second access point and the light will either be blinking or on steady. It is blinking. The access points are only about 20 feet from each other. It doesn't seem that PH sees the access point devices in auto discover. Are access points discovered? Should they show up in device list?
Sorry to say, but I guess I need some help.
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grif091 Super User
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 23:41 | IP Logged
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Access Points are not something that are of interest to PowerHome. No control , configuration or linking of access points through PH. Before plugging in the second Access Point, do the multiple set button press on the first one. Then plug the second Access Point into what you think is the opposite 120v circuit. If the LEDs do not follow described sequence for a properly installed second Access Point, unplug the second Access Point and move to a different outlet. Keep doing this until you find a location for the second access point where the LEDs are correct. You have about 4 minutes before the first access point times out if memory is correct. If a valid location cannot be found for the second access point, move the first access point to a different location. Do the multiple set button sequence on the first access point again and start plugging the second access point into different outlets again until the LEDs indicate correct installation.
If you cannot find a location for both the first and second APs where the LEDs indicate a successful install, contact Smarthome. You might have a bad access point
__________________ Lee G
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logbuilder Newbie
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 23:59 | IP Logged
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Update.
First let me say I really don't get this.
The access points are now on the same 110 leg off the breaker. Not on opposite ones.
I do the access point setup stuff (4 SET button presses on the 1st one, plug in second, check lights) and the second one says it sees the 1st.
I think that won't solve the problem of controlling devices on each of the 2 110 legs but when I test, I can control on either of the 110 legs.
As I say, doesn't make a lot of sense to me but it does seeem to be bridging the 110 legs and that is why I got the access points.
I'm now moving into getting a macro working that will turn on lights when motion is seen on my cameras. I already have the trigger working. Right now it invokes a macro that does nothing more than show a popup. Now I need to see if I can enhance the macro to turn on a light. I'm expecting that will be pretty straight forward but I might be surprised.
Edited by logbuilder - February 21 2009 at 00:01
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grif091 Super User
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Posted: February 21 2009 at 00:23 | IP Logged
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If the LED on the second Access Point is On steady but dim when plugged in while the first AP is in setup mode, they are communicating but on the same 120v leg. If the LED on the second Access Point is On steady and bright when plugged in while the first AP is in setup mode, they are communicating and on different 120v legs, the condition you need. Until you achieve the second condition the Access Points are not providing the phase coupling function. That does not mean that cross phase devices cannot communicate. An electric dry, an electric hot water heater, any 240v application being on can provide the phase coupling intermittently. Although some users have stated a working powerline network without Access Points, Smarthome strongly recommends their use and correct installation. My memory was wrong, the user guide says 9 minutes to accomplish access point installation before the first AP times out.
__________________ Lee G
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logbuilder Newbie
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 00:56 | IP Logged
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Well, I figured this out and I have to admit, I feel pretty dumb.
First, let me say this is a new house and I did all the wiring so I know how it all fits together. But... I'm not an electrician by trade so everything is not locked into my head. I passed final electrical inspection a few months ago so I guess I kind of turned off my brain in terms of electrical when that happened.
In my breaker box which is a 200A box, I looked at it and picked circuits on opposite sides of the box to decide where to plug in my access points. The flaw is that this doesn't determine which 110 leg they are on. Every other lug on each side is one 110 leg or another. The flaw in my thinking finally dawned on me when I thought about how each 220 breaker works. Duh! I feel so dense.
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